A Freedom Of Speech Conversation

A rainy night, a shaky Wi‑Fi connection, and two cousins who can’t stop poking at big questions—this one goes from small talk to seismic shifts fast. We open with sobriety jitters after New Year’s champagne and the tiredness that makes old habits feel easy. Then a family death lands hard, and we unpack the strange silence of missed messages, the awkwardness of grief logistics, and why we’re choosing to show up anyway. That personal weight sets the tone for a fiery middle: the high-speed arrest of Venezuela’s strongman, claims of cartel ties, and the celebration versus outrage that followed.

We examine the narratives fighting for oxygen. Is this liberation or spectacle? Who benefits when protests have polished posters the next day? We talk oil reserves, power, and why decisive action abroad comes easier than accountability at home. It’s not a lecture; it’s a candid grapple with conflicting reports and lived reactions. Along the way we question that ominous “enjoy your last Christmas” line—was it fearmongering or a message aimed at powerful names tied to darker scandals? We don’t pretend to have all the answers, but we won’t stop asking better questions.

If you’re here for honest conversation that blends real life with hard news, this is your lane. Expect messy humor, sharp skepticism, and a throughline of empathy for people who’ve actually lived under a regime. Hit play, then tell us what you think: bold rescue or power play? Subscribe, share with a friend who loves unfiltered talk, and leave a review to help more listeners find the show.

Chapters

• 0:00 Opening Banter And Listener Shout‑Outs
• 3:15 Sobriety Struggles And Weekend Drinking
• 7:34 Goofy Bits, Tech Talk, And Earbuds
• 13:51 Family Loss And Funeral Plans
• 23:36 Venezuela Arrest Headlines And Reactions
• 34:34 Oil, Regimes, And U.S. Involvement
• 46:00 Protests, Paid Posters, And Media Spin
• 52:57 “Last Christmas” Line And Global Stakes
• 1:02:17 Frustration With Politics And Division
• 1:06:52 Wrap‑Up, QR Code, And Support

Transcript

Joe: 1:12

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Thee Gooch: 3:27

Good.

Joe: 3:28

Joseph, how you been? Good, good, good. Remo, uh actually, Remo's gonna join in right now, but uh right now he's going through uh dinner time right now. So after he's done, he's gonna hop in. Uh Remo should be joining us in uh like maybe in 50 more minutes. He just gave me a call right now. So he did, yeah. Yeah, so in 50 minutes you'll be on it, and you know, things like that. So, how's your day, Gooch? How's everything? Uh I'm tired. Who else is tired? Tired, tired, always tired. It almost seems like it comes with age.

Thee Gooch: 4:06

Really? I just want to sleep all day. Oh my gosh. So, how you been, Gooch? Yeah, I'm I'm good. Just again, yeah. Nothing's changed since the last time you asked me. I'm I'm tired. I'm gonna take a nap. Take a little nap. Take a little nap. Maybe when when Remo joins, I'll I'll take a nap in the background and just let you guys talk. Oh my gosh. Uh uh. Oh my gosh. And you know how last show I told you I was I I quit drinking. I don't drink anymore. I'm like, I'm done, I don't want to drink. Fuck, dude. It was a I think it's a mental thing, you're right. Because the entire week, the entire week, that's all I thought about was that champagne I drank on New Year's Eve. Oh shit, are you serious? How good it was. Remember that champagne I used to buy back in the day? That martini and Rossi? Yeah, yeah. Or Rossi, whatever the fuck it's called. Yeah, that shit. Oh shit. Fuck, I craved it. And then you drank it? No. No. Oh well, I mean, I think we drank it. We drank it on New Year's Eve. Yeah. But in yours day, you didn't. No, no. Well, I mean, it's still it's still the beginning of the year. You know? Yeah. You still could have you still could have drinked it. You know? Why not? Thanks for the encouragement of not drinking there, Joseph. Well, you are. I don't know. I just I just feel like I just need to stop drinking this. Yeah. I mean, it comes to a point, huh? Yeah, it comes to a point where it just it doesn't benefit my body, it doesn't benefit any situation, it doesn't benefit anything, you know. And if anything, it causes trouble, you know.

Joe: 5:52

Yeah, true.

Thee Gooch: 5:53

It ca it causes trouble where you're gonna walk half a mile to go get some more fucking beer and shit, and you come across somebody that you don't like, and it's it just stirs shit up.

Joe: 6:05

Yeah, that's true. That's true, you know. But uh so and our age right now is just why do I deal with that shit? True. It I mean, in a way, it gets kind of tiring, you know? Yeah, I mean to me, I I mean I drink, but I don't drink like fucking every day. I only drink like once on a Saturday, but then if like I have a hang a huge hangover, I kind of quit for a little while because then you know it struck me good. Maybe it takes like a great hangover for you to stop drinking, huh?

Thee Gooch: 6:35

You know, yeah, yeah.

Joe: 6:36

But I don't know. For some reason, I mean uh I do drink, but it's like a six-pack a weekend, you know. Right. So but there are exceptions though. What's that? Like, say if sexy pants tells me if I want to drink, I'm gonna be like, the only way I will drink with sexy pants if I pour beer down his work boots and I drink it like that. Gosh, I would love to see that, to be honest. Yeah, some Cinderella shit, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Or pour champagne down his back, you know, and just let it roll down his boutiques. You know what? I always uh always wanted a picture of that. I always always I always told him, you know what, dude? It would have been cool seeing you all naked on a on a fucking horse. And you and go the gooch with our sal with with our cellulite on our butt cheeks. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It'll be like a like a jackass movie, huh? Yeah. And he always asks me, why you why you always picture me that with the you know, I go, I don't know, it's just it's just it's just comical. I don't know for some reason. I don't know. I mean you're my you're you're you're my cousin, you know. Yeah, we gotta keep it in the family, yeah. You know, but uh fucking strange stranger thoughts that are stranger things. Yeah, yeah. I feel horrible though because I told them I would send them those earbuds when I talked to him on when was it Christmas Eve? No, yeah. And fuck, dude. I was uh worked all day that day, and then I had to work Saturday, and then they closed post office clothes earlier, and it's like fuck, I'm starting to look like a fucking idiot. My cousin, my primo was probably thinking, you know, oh he was probably drunk. You see, it's alcoholism, dude. Yeah, I'll send I'll send them tomorrow for sure. Jeez. I couldn't imagine.

Thee Gooch: 8:36

Yeah.

Joe: 8:37

But um my god. Did you ever uh text them or call them like right now, recently, so you could let them know about the I did I did I did Friday when I when I got out of work late. Uh yeah, Friday. He told me not to worry about it. He was excited, he's excited about it though, so I'm gonna I'm gonna send him out to him. Yeah. I mean, I I liked it, but I mean it's not my style though, on those pods. What is iPods you said? Earpods? Uh Samsung, Samsung Galaxy Buds? Buds Pro 3, some shit like that. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't like the stick coming out right here. I like the stick. I knew you were gonna come up with that shit. That's what I said about uh I'm gonna watch it for this one. We walked right into that one. Yeah, I was gonna say, oh shit, I'm walking myself into this one. Yeah, I don't know. I just I just don't like the one that's coming out like that. I just rather fucking use their most. But there's a story about that. Uh I don't know if you heard about it, dude. That people, well, I'm not a hardcore gamer, like you know, where you know, uses the headphones, right? You know, yeah, but there's people that see I you we use like a hat on it, right? We use be I use um right now I'm using a beanie, right? Right, right. But there's people that don't wear a beanie and they just use it like that all day. They're all game, they're all playing all day, gaming, gaming, and or whatever they're doing. And they're and they they're saying that their scalp is bending. Really? I don't know if you heard about that. No, no, when they cut their hair, they're they're fucking their their scalp on the brain right here on the side, it's like it's bending down. Yeah, it's like our pinkies, our pinkies are evolving, they're curving in, yeah, right? Because how we hold our cell phones, right? Yeah, true.

Thee Gooch: 10:27

Same deal, like it curve curves that way, see, like my dick. Nothing.

Joe: 10:39

But but like I said, like they were saying too that that when you pick your nose, like this, right? It says that your cartilage from your nose ends up getting big, bigger. Really? Believe that shit. That's what that's what they're saying. That's what they're saying. That every time you pick your nose, I go, wonder my fucking nose is fucking big because I've always always picked my nose, you know. I'm going like this. That explains why you don't have a brain, because you probably picked that out a long time ago. Maybe, huh? Yeah. Well, that's what that's what they're saying to scientists. They're saying you pick your nose, your nose ends up getting big. And fuck it, you when you're wearing too much of the headphones on top of your head, your head, your fucking um, your top of your skull ends up denting and all that shit. So I don't know what to believe anymore, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, I heard about that one about the pinky. Like you get you grow callous on your pinky uh for holding your friend too much, you know. Oh shit, man. So yeah, dude, um, just like uh a little exhausted too today. It's uh I don't know, like a boring day because it's raining a little bit. It's like sprinkling, drizzling, it's already cloudy out there right now. It's like uh 58 degrees and uh and the lows or highs, whatever you want to call it, you know. But it's really it's kind of like a boring. I mean I don't the fatigue I get like when it's I think it happens to everybody. Like, you don't feel like going outside and shit like that. Like you don't feel like driving and shit, you know? Yeah, because I was gonna go change my oil. The what? I feel like I feel like that every fucking day, dude. I don't want to go anywhere. And I want to, I was gonna change my oil, go, I'll do it tomorrow. Oh, I'll do it the next day, I'll do it tomorrow. Yeah, but I don't know, just uh I don't know, just get the fatigue, you know. I don't know. I guess the way that people drive and stuff and shit. Like, I don't know. But it's like me cleaning my house. I was supposed to clean my house two months ago. Yeah, no shit, huh? Still haven't even touched it. I don't do it tomorrow. Tomorrow tomorrow never comes. Yeah, no shit. And I never do it, you know. Yeah, um, we know we had a deaf in our family, right? Uncle Carlos. Yeah, no shit. Yeah, Uncle Carlos. Oh I liked him. Yeah. And we're having the services on two weeks, I think on January 22nd and 23rd. Oh, they told you, but they didn't tell me. Well, maybe because you're always changing your Facebook and all that stuff. I don't know. I don't know. My number well, they didn't tell me. I I got it from from uh what do you call it? Uh from our cousin D. Oh, really? Yeah, from the from the phone. They didn't notify us, but I'm pretty sure we're invited, you know, but they don't know how to get get to in contact with us, you know. But you know, that's what I'm a bit surprised, dude, because our cousin, our primo, didn't he fucking you know send us that, you know? What's wrong with that? Well the thing is, I I I think I had his number. I texted the number, and it was an Apple phone, it was an iPhone. And I texted him, hey, I'm trying to reach out to my cousin, you know, his name. And if this is you, please reach back. Sorry to hear about your dad, blah blah blah. They left me on red, like they read it, but they didn't respond. Yeah, so maybe it was his number, maybe it wasn't. I don't know. Jeez, or maybe they don't want to have nothing to do with us because we we conservative talk, you know? Yeah, yeah. Who knows? Well, I don't know. Oh shit, yeah, who knows? Who knows? Wouldn't put it past anybody. The the funny part is that we're trying to get, you know, we're trying to get together and all that stuff, trying to make uh best of it and all that stuff, but it's just like there always has to be secretive, you know. Yeah, you know, when dad passed away, I let everybody know, you know. Hey, my dad passed away, you know. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

Thee Gooch: 14:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe: 14:52

Why do why I mean just I mean their parents passed away. We know how it feels, you know. And you know, they didn't reach out to us, you know. Yeah, we're fucking veterans on parents passing away. We know what it feels like, you know. Yeah, I mean, I'm surprised, you know, like I don't know. I mean they didn't contact sexy pants, Chico Checks, and on the contact um huh? They didn't contact sexy pants either, or not no sexy pants and and Chico Checks and Nadonia. You know?

Thee Gooch: 15:26

I mean if it's like that then I won't even try to go.

Joe: 15:29

Yeah, I mean, I don't know. It's just like uh I I don't know, I feel like it's uh if the if we're not invited or something like that. But yeah, but I I got pictures of Uncle Carlos right here, so there he is. Rest in peace, you know. Uh and I got a picture of uh the brothers, you know. He was 80. Yeah. Yeah, so here's uh the picture of the brothers. So right here on the right left, I think it's Uncle Carlos. We have Uncle Robert, we got Uncle Tito, and we have dad right here. I even wrote it, I even put in lettering. So always with a fucking beer. Yeah, no shit, huh? I don't even want a beer. So I don't know, dad's probably carrying two things carrying a beer and a shot, huh? Yeah, he's he's double fisting, is what he's doing. No shit, huh? My dad was a strong drinker, to be honest. Fuck yeah, he was. Dude, that that guy he drank all of us under the fucking table, dude. We'd be fucking drunk and he'll still keep going. Yeah. And the the the problem, then you know, the thing is that it gets me is that that's not what he died of. He didn't die of sorrys in a liver. That's what triggers me, you know. Why not triggers me? That's what intrigues me. You know, so I don't know, it's crazy. Yeah, there you go. Um gonna and then I have to cut my fucking hair too, dude. Oh shit. Huh?

Thee Gooch: 17:15

Then take off your beanie.

Joe: 17:17

Take off my beanie?

Thee Gooch: 17:18

Yeah, let's check it out. Okay, hold on. Okay, hold on. Okay, go and see this. What he's complaining about. Holy shit.

Joe: 17:26

Yeah, it's really long, dude. Holy fuck. It looks like a fro already. It almost looks like uh oh shit. Buckwheat. A Mexican. How does it go? Um boy, what I what is it? Oh day! Oh no, I just gotta cut it. I have to cut my hair. It has to be this week, dude. And that and that too. That's too. I get lazy on that shit, dude. I get lazy cutting my hair and all that stuff, and plus it's like expensive now. It's like $45 to cut your hair now. Imagine, and then plus uh plus that, we gotta tip them. You know, here's come Remo. Welcome aboard, Remo. Wrong tune. Oh Remo, Remo. Let's see. Um, before anything, we gotta check your audio.

Remo: 18:28

Let me fix this shit.

Thee Gooch: 18:29

Okay, go for it. You sound good. Can you hear him, Gooch?

Remo: 18:32

Fuck you.

Joe: 18:34

There we go. Fuck you. I know. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Yeah, we're freaking f what we're freaking out. Maybe you had a lot of what's going on in there and shit, and that's why it's kind of delaying you. Well, you went to go eat too, huh? Oh, you already froze already again. Here we go again, guys. He froze, yeah. So yeah, dude, uh that's what's going on, you know. I mean other than that. Yeah, I can hear you.

Remo: 19:30

Alright, but you guys are kind of breaking up right now.

Joe: 19:33

We are Nice!

Joe and Thee Gooch: 19:40

So So are they gonna do uh the military services for Uncle Carlos? Yeah, well, I don't know about that. That I don't know. Yeah, I mean he they should because they did it to I think they did it to Uncle Robert too. Yeah, they should they should do it too to Uncle Carlos. Yeah, he's gonna be buried in Calvary, dude. Oh I don't know if he's gonna be next to dad or his grandpa. You know, you think you think he's gonna be in the mausoleum? I think he's gonna be might he might be in a mausoleum. I don't know yet. So shit, it sounds like a fucking party to me. Maybe I will go. You mean you might you're gonna go with maybe if I'm well in fairness, my cousin our cousins don't have my number because the goddamn number keeps fucking changing, but yeah they're gonna I'll reach out to them. Yeah. I mean, um I mean it's not like a party and anything. I mean at least tell us. Well they they do have dinner after the the funeral, no? Or lunch or whatever the case may be. Yeah. A lot of people I haven't seen. Benny was supposed to show up too. I think he's here, but he hasn't said anything. Oh, really? Another secret. Another secret, Hunto. Yeah, another one. Another one. Oh. Well, he he told me he was gonna be here. But he didn't tell me how long you know he's gonna be here. You know? But uh all righty. Yeah, I'll see. I'll see if I make it. It'll just be for a couple days, but we'll see. Kill two birds with one stone, go to the funeral, and go see Oscar Remo. Yeah. Yep.

Thee Gooch: 21:22

Take these knuckleheads.

Joe: 21:26

Yeah, so um that's already set. So but that that's what's bothering me, dude. I mean, they should at least, you know, text us and let us know. They I mean they they have me on Facebook. They have uh think sexy pants on Facebook and all that stuff, but I mean, at least they should have like text us. At least them, dude. Because they're the they're they're they're the ones that that lost their mom first, you know. Uh-huh.

Joe and Thee Gooch: 21:50

You know what I mean? So they know what it's like. Who are sexy pants? Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh my god. I thought you're talking about yeah, I know, right? And I reached out, I reached out to Dia Maria, dude, and I never got a call back. Oh, you didn't? No. Well, again, my fucking number changed too. Oh yeah. So what's in the news, Gucci Gooch? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Before anything, before anything. Hold on. What's up with Remo? Remo, are you there?

Remo: 22:28

Yeah, but it's I'm done with phone.

Thee Gooch: 22:52

That was a good one, dude. I didn't I wouldn't fucking catch that. I didn't even fucking realize that that was a good one.

Joe and Thee Gooch: 23:04

So once again, the Democratic Party and the Liberals are having a little meltdown, like they need a little diaper change, those little fucking cocksuckers. Damn. Yeah, my god, dude. They're just so fucking they're frustrating, dude. They're like, Yeah, no shit. You know, one minute, one minute, like what was it last month? Or maybe even last week. I mean, who knows? Who's these people are hard to keep up with? There's no kings, they don't like dictators. They call Donald Trump a dictator. Everybody's a dictator, yeah, yeah. Donald Trump takes out the illegitimate president of Venezuela, yeah, plucks him out of his palace, and takes him to prison in in New York, and these liberal democrats are just losing their fucking mind.

Joe: 23:56

Yeah, no shit.

Thee Gooch: 23:57

And this guy is an actual Democrat. These guys are actual, this guy's an actual Democrat. I mean, uh dictator. Fucking crazy, huh? So they're saying that in close to his 20 years in reign, he's killed or had people executed, killed, or murdered at least 50,000. 50,000? 50,000 in close to 20 years that he was been a legitimate leader of Villanzuela. That's fucking crazy. Not to mention the drug trafficking, not to mention uh the human trafficking, uh-huh. And he was one of the leaders of the biggest cartels in that region.

Joe: 24:45

Jeez. Oh shit.

Joe and Thee Gooch: 24:48

Yeah. And um, he's the one go ahead. Go ahead. I'm sorry, go ahead, Joe. I'm sorry. And he was already here, like, come and get me Donald Trump and this and that. He he he uh exploded himself like that. Have you have you seen that one with uh Bugs Bunny? Oh no, I didn't. Fuck, dude. I should have sent that one. That shit was hilarious, dude. Oh, I think I think I might have sent it. I've seen it, but I need recording the one with Bugs Bunny, yeah. It's one uh the apes on one side of the canyon and Bugs Bunny's on the other one, taunting the ape, and then the ape just pulls the the rope and it brings the whole mountain closer to. Oh, okay, yeah. I've seen the cartoon hilarious, yeah. I've seen the cartoon, but they dub Maduro's the the dictator's voice as Bugs Bunny uh and the ape as Donald Trump, and he just pulls because he called Donald Trump a coward. Uh-huh. He told Donald Trump, come and get me. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. So Donald Trump went and got him. And they're saying that it only took about three hours to capture him. They went in, they they distracted all the explosions they saw on the media that we saw in the media, all those explosions they were outside of city limits. It's so it was a distraction because at that point they were going in to arrest him and his wife. That's crazy. So they didn't they need attack no citizens or anything, and then all these liberals that doing the protest, they thought it was a fucking war, huh? Yeah, all that all they're saying, these these leftists are saying that it was a war, that there's a war in Venezuela, and really it only took three hours. They went in and they came out.

Joe: 26:25

Yeah, yeah.

Thee Gooch: 26:26

But they did, they did the uh the I don't know if it was the SEALs or Delta Force, I don't know who went in there, but they're saying that they did eliminate or execute Maduro's security people around him.

Joe: 26:39

Uh-huh.

Joe and Thee Gooch: 26:39

The majority of them that they were they were killed. Yeah, they killed them. And some of them they they some of them they spared, right? Yeah, some of them they spared, but they were all, you know, uh the the regime. The regime, yeah. Yeah, they they took them out. So now they're talking about it. Yeah, so what happened was is that 20 nearly 20 years ago, there was a there was a vote for presidency. The guy Maduro lost by more than half of the the citizens didn't want him as a as a as a president, right? So they brought in so someone else won. I forget his fucking Gonzalez, I think his last name was, but he won unanimously unanimously, and he was actually like a Democrat, uh but Maduro didn't want to leave. He's all no no no I'm taking over this place. This is Venezuela's mine, yeah. And for close to 20 years, he didn't leave. Jeez, and they couldn't get him out because of the cartels and and people around them, you know. Hey, it may be it may have something to do with oil.

Remo: 28:01

Yeah, I mean or something.

Thee Gooch: 28:06

So it it has to do a lot with the oil too, right? It may have well, you have to think too, but in the 1950s, Venezuela at the time in the 1950s, they they called the American engineers to come to Venezuela and show them how to you know extract the oil from the ground, right? Right, and then figure away how to refine it so they can use it as power, you know, a power source. So the United States have always has always been a part of the the oil company business there in Venezuela, yeah. But the oil now today, it was never Venezuela's because Venezuela never had the oil, yeah. They never controlled it, they never benefited out of it. Maduro did, Maduro did, and his fucking regime did. That's what these people don't understand. You know what I mean?

Joe: 29:04

Yeah, yeah. That's fucking weird, dude.

Joe and Thee Gooch: 29:08

Yeah, so Venezuela the Venezuelan, the Venezuelan people from Venezuela never had control of their oil. Okay, so get this. They have oil in reserves right now that is worth 17.5 trillion dollars, bro. Sheez. 17.5 trillion dollars in reserves. That means on the side that they already pumped out of the earth. That can clear up the national debt for the United States. She's no shit, huh? You know what I mean? Right, but Trump's not gonna do that, and that's what these people don't understand. He wants to give all of that to the people of Venezuela, but they have to have the right leadership. Yeah, no more, no more. They want it for a democracy, not a regime to control people, what to eat, what to watch, yeah, when to have electricity, when not to have electricity. And that's what these democrats are fighting for. The Democrats are a joke, dude. Yeah, and these um Venezuelans over there, they're like really happy about this happening, right? I mean, literally, they're like celebrating, they're like crying too. I mean the whole world is happy that Venezuela has been freed from this piece of shit, right? Yeah, everybody except the Democrats. Imagine that shit. Imagine that. What a fucking shocker. Yeah. But just because of Donald, Donald Trump's the one who got involved with it, huh? That's why what these democrats forget when Joe Biden was pre allegedly president, Joe Biden put a uh a war award out on Maduro's head, 25 million. Okay, okay, dead or alive. Right?

Joe: 31:06

Right.

Thee Gooch: 31:06

When Trump came in, he doubled it, 50 million. Okay, dead or alive. Nobody, nobody claimed it, nobody caught him, nobody ratted him out.

Remo: 31:20

Fucking stupid ass fucking I finally got the Wi-Fi working here.

Thee Gooch: 31:25

Okay. Oh, you did?

Remo: 31:27

Yeah. I didn't realize that you have to put the capitals that are in the fucking shit, too. I was just writing it up with pendejo. It was a password.

Joe: 31:34

Oh shit.

Remo: 31:34

So it had to be capitals that had the first S and the and the Yeah, yeah. So point being yeah, I got it figured out now. So I got Wi-Fi right now.

Thee Gooch: 31:41

What's your input? What's your input on uh Benzuela that they capture that for?

Remo: 31:44

Melapela.

Thee Gooch: 31:46

Melapela?

Remo: 31:47

My input is I don't know, oh, I don't know what's going on, but I know it's more to it than what the fuck they're saying. It's I'm really not up to date on it. Like I said, right here, the TV that don't really watch TV. I've really seen clear like like updates and news reports on like online, whatever is, but honestly, no, I know something about the sanctions on the or the oil tankers, but I know there's more to it. There's more shit to it. There's something going on. Yeah, they're after something. There's something in Venezuela that they want that they're trying to get, they're trying to pick up, they're trying to take.

Thee Gooch: 32:15

Well, the thing is, is that the thing is is that what we have to understand is that the that dude that they that they arrested Maduro, he was never a legitimate president.

Remo: 32:26

Yeah, I think none of those countries are they do you come on? Right, right, right. Right, right. We don't want to talk about legitimate presidents, legitimate fucking politics, and legit governments. Mexico's not one of them. Mexico fucking plays ball with the fucking cartels. That's why the people say I thought how do you want to praise Mexico and and and and and and and judge? Yeah, yeah, but Cuba there's no but how do you want to fucking like like like talk so much shit about Trump and whatnot and this and this and this when you want to say, you know, you praise Mexico so much, but get Mexico kills its own people by cartels, and cartels are working with the fucking government and this this and that. You know what I mean? So on the yeah, and the winnings are fucking eight dollars a day and this and this and that. So like that's why I just gotta stay out of it. It's a it's a it's a it's a picky fucking stupid topic that fucking doesn't make no sense, you know. It's it's yeah, so it's like, you know, you really can't really say anything about either or because you know we just gotta worry about what the fuck we're dealing with down here with us.

Thee Gooch: 33:18

The major thing that's pissing me off about this whole fucking deal that I was gonna get to is that they're so the government's so fucking quick to take out this dude, but it almost seems like they have a fucking problem. Politicians have a problem arresting other politicians, yeah.

Remo: 33:35

Other politicians.

Thee Gooch: 33:37

Why is it taking them so long? Yeah, exactly. Why is it taking them so far? And you see it all over the either the news, social media, everywhere. Oh, there's evidence that such, yeah. Oh, there's evidence that such and such knew about this. Oh, the whistleblower came forward, this came forward, this, and meanwhile, nobody's being held accountable.

Remo: 33:58

You know what I'm saying? In our own fucking home dirt, home territory shit, this fucking politician is doing worse way out shit that we should be worried about that it could actually affect the fucking you know economy of the country, the fraudulent shit, the fucking, you know. I think it's all the money.

Thee Gooch: 34:13

I think that that, yeah, this whole Venezuela thing can be a part of the whole oil grab, too. Because I just told Joel that they have a reserve of 17.5 trillion dollars of oil and reserve that Venezuela does. It can be, it could be for the people, it could be for the United States, half and half, split it. I don't know what the fuck the plan is gonna be. But the thing is, is like it's just all bullshit at this point.

Joe: 34:39

Yeah, yeah.

Remo: 34:40

You don't know what to believe, you don't know what to say. So that's it's like why even any input on it if we know you could be wrong, you could be right at the end of the day. It might bug you, it may not, but it's like fuck, only only only they know what the fuck's going on and what it's like. And even if it is a wrong fucking thing, well, what can we do? What can anybody do about it? Let them do what the fuck they're gonna do.

Thee Gooch: 35:00

I mean, yeah, yeah. And a lot of uh the people from Venezuela, a lot of them are pissed off at the the Americans, or Democrats rather, of being against it because they're they lived it. You know what I'm saying? They'd lived under the dictatorship, yeah, so they know what they're talking about, and these fucking democrats don't. They don't. I mean, they're all like there's a pic this is a clip that I I just got. Um I'm gonna show it right now. It's gonna they look he makes that guy look stupid. All these workers are right there protesting, right? And it's one of the one of the Valenzuenian videoing, and he's saying, Why are you protesting about? He had no answer. Alright. So I'm gonna show you that clip right now while Remo's fixing his audio.

Joe: 35:53

I don't know if it's just what I'm saying. Yeah, we love it.

Clip: 36:07

No, hi guys, where are you? No more war. Where are you from? And why are you protesting right now? Today. No more wars in Venezuela, no more wars in Venezuela, and you know about the situation in Venezuela? What do you know about the situation in Venezuela? So you want to give me a talk. I just want to talk actually. So we have a group of people that they are protesting because they want no people. This is people from the deal because of the wedding deal with a big thing.

Joe: 38:28

How about that? I think he's telling you the two, right?

Thee Gooch: 38:33

Oh, yeah.

Joe: 38:33

Because those most of the people that don't even know how Venezuela is, or Saúlino, I mean Salvador, like all the regimes and all that shit.

Remo: 38:41

But why are those people in jail though? That's what I want to know. For what reason? Because there's dictatorship innocent people. No, no, no, no, no, but still, why are they okay? We lost him again.

Thee Gooch: 38:55

Well, while Remo's playing robot there he goes with his uh your robotic you there? But so the thing is that because a lot of well, like Remo was gonna say that why did they get arrested? Why we why some of the people are getting arrested over there in Venezuela, right? I mean good point, but but it's like some of the people right here don't know how the regime lives over there. Like I said again, there's people from the employment are crying, you know, from Venezuela. They're crying because you know that they feel free now, they feel better now, and they're relieved, right? Right.

Joe: 39:40

And I got one of the clips of one of them crying. I think it's one of them. Oh no, it's not the employee employment one, it's the some girl, she just just crying out her wit. Okay, that's one of them. I mean, I don't know. They but they have a reason. I mean, we don't know that because we don't live there. We don't know how it feels to be getting dictated uh from another country, right? Right. I mean, these people already know how they feel, the reason why they have the right to celebrate, you know, because we don't we we're not we're not in their shoes, you gotta remember that. They're celebrating for a reason, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I mean, there's there's a celebration going on and they know how they feel. We don't know how they feel. Why? Why the reason why they're celebrating what this president did, this dictator guy Maduro did, you know? So you want me to go on with the clips? Yeah. Okay, here's the one that you send me. Okay.

Clip: 41:21

And here's the one that you sent me to culpa del narco dictador Nicolas Maduro. Señor Donald Trump, aga lo que tenga que hacer.

Thee Gooch: 41:40

Okay. What she's saying is what she's saying is Donald Trump, do what you have to do because we cannot take this anymore. We can't go hungry anymore because of this dictator Maduro.

Joe: 41:53

That's what she said, right?

Thee Gooch: 41:55

Yeah.

Joe: 41:56

And this is this is going all day, dude. Like right now, probably, right?

Thee Gooch: 42:01

Right.

Joe: 42:01

Here's another one. Oh, isn't it? Go ahead.

Thee Gooch: 42:05

It's happening all over the world.

Joe: 42:07

Yeah. Here's here's this one. I guess that's another one. Right. The what?

Remo: 42:36

No, nothing I'm just going to say.

Speaker 3: 42:38

Fuck you!

Thee Gooch: 42:42

Okay, here's one more. No, do you s the one you send me?

Clip: 42:51

Gracias.

Joe and Thee Gooch: 43:50

So now my eye. Yeah. They're gonna come with all the eyes, things like that. So now my point is, so now my point is that I want this administration now to go after these dirty motherfuckers. Because if they have the power to sneak into this motherfucker's house, take them out, bring them back into the United States, they can do it to these dirty politicians. Every single fucking one of them. Because if you look back four years ago when Joe Biden was president, they arrested so many fucking people, they even arrested Donald Trump and charged him and convicted him 34 times for 34 counts. So now everybody's saying, oh, they're just trying to make sure they have hard, hard, you know, rock solid fucking evidence on everybody, blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, but this has been going on for fucking decades.

Joe: 44:45

Right, yeah.

Thee Gooch: 44:48

You know, all that fraud in Minnesota, every it there's a lot of evidence, but meanwhile, nobody's in fucking cuffs. Yeah, that's what that's what that's intriguing, huh? Yeah, that's what intrigues me too, because look at what's his name, Tam Palm Tim. Well, that's it. That's what they call him, right? Yeah. Oh my god, okay. But that's what it is, I guess. Are you there? Remo he's gone.

Joe: 45:16

He keeps logging out. He's uh the Wi-Fi there probably sucks.

Thee Gooch: 45:25

You know, Remo. So what else is going on in the world there, Joseph?

Joe: 45:35

Good. Well, you know what? Uh the thing that was getting me too is um there's another one. Um did you hear what uh Donald Trump Trump said about that uh this is gonna be our final Christmas? Well, last last year was our final Christmas, that's what he mentioned. I mean, I'm trying to make uh I mean I think everybody's trying to make uh a case out of that. Now they wanna, you know, you have that video?

Thee Gooch: 46:03

You got that you got that one. Yeah, I think I had it.

Remo: 46:11

Yeah.

Joe: 46:14

Oh, then when I put these put these videos?

Remo: 46:17

Something it does something. I don't know why it does something, it ends up like fucking up my shit, but I think it's just my phone. I need to get an upgrade phone. This shit fucking still on 4G.

Joe: 46:25

Oh my gosh. Okay, here's the one with uh when Donald Trump says uh the last Christmas. You know, enjoy what I don't got what audio clips? Okay, well, here's this one. Folks, enjoy what may be your last Christmas.

Clip: 46:47

What was supposed to be a traditional Christmas message just turned into a political firestorm. During Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, the president posted a series of holiday messages that shocked many Americans. Alongside wishing the country a Merry Christmas, he warned citizens to enjoy what may be your last Christmas. The statement was framed as a warning about the nation's future, blaming political opponents, the radical left, and powerful elites. In other posts, he revived old claims involving Jeffrey Epstein, attacked media figures, and revisited past election grievances. Instead of a single calm address, the messages came in rapid succession, mixing holiday wishes with anger, accusations, and conspiracy-tinged language. Media outlets and commentators reacted immediately, calling the tone dark, ominous, and deeply divisive for a moment, traditionally associated with unity. The backlash spread beyond the US, sparking satire, criticism, and global debate.

Joe: 47:44

Okay, so what do you think of all that? Well, I thought it was AI, but I guess it's it wasn't. Yeah. I mean, um what do you well I mean what do you think? Well, I mean, your theory. You know what I think?

Thee Gooch: 48:02

What do you think?

Joe: 48:03

If you're wondering. If you're wondering. I mean, I think it's just uh they're sending up for a one-world order.

Thee Gooch: 48:15

You know you know what it could be too it could be he was talking to all those fucking people that were going to Epstein's island.

Joe: 48:30

Enjoy your last Christmas. Yeah, I don't think he was talking to like us, like the American people. Oh, you think he's talking to people inside the the White House? Who who are involved with the Epstein uh the whole shit with the Epstein files. And you think he's included?

Thee Gooch: 48:49

If Donald Trump's included?

Joe: 48:51

Yeah.

Thee Gooch: 48:54

I don't know, dude.

Joe: 48:56

I don't know. Because he's saying that it would be your last Christmas. If he's included, yeah, he should be in fucking prison. You know, if he's included, if he's involved with molesting children, yes. They should they should all be executed. Yeah. But uh if that was true, he would not they would have let that out a long time ago, right? And that's the thing, and that's the thing too. You know, we had Joe Biden for four years. Well, let's be let's be fucking real. Joe Biden didn't run the country for four years, it was fucking Obama and and many other people. Okay, yeah. But they had the list, they had the files for four years. Yeah, so the theory is if they had the files, why didn't they do they release them? Yeah, if Donald Trump was on it. That's why I'm like on the fence about it. If if Donald Trump's on it, fuck yeah, arrest them. Arrest everybody. Yeah. But I just think they have a problem arresting each other, you know? Yeah. That's true. I mean you lost Remo. What do you you what do you what do you think about this, Remo? What do you think about it?

Joe and Thee Gooch: 50:12

That's what he says. That's what he says. That's what uh that's what he really feels. Remo. Does Remo even listen to us while he's in there? Or I don't even know. He probably does. I mean I actually had a fun fact, dude, but I fucking forgot it. Fun fact, huh? Nice! What else do we got in this platform there, Joseph? What else do I got? I mean, I don't want to play no clips because uh then Remo is gonna be logging out. Don't play no, don't play no clips.

Remo: 50:57

I don't know, I don't know if it's the phone or what, but it keeps fucking interrupting with the with the signal for some reason. I what kind of phone do you got? I start hearing the little chipmunk fucking would be shit.

Joe: 51:07

Then I'm hearing like this little br coming uh I don't know, it's annoying. What phone do you got? What c what phone do you got? Let it out, let it out, Remo.

Remo: 51:27

Nah, just I'm over all that shit, but this is all just propaganda bullshit to fucking distract us and to keep us divided and to keep us fighting each other and to keep us another fucking it's another fucking scheme for us to be divided and and and have the liberals and the and the fucking democrats and the fucking the Republicans and the fucking and the Dummigans and the fucking stupid fucks, you know what I mean? And it's just a division. That's all it is to me now. And I'm over it. I'm over all that shit. Fuck politics, fuck all that shit. Fuck Donald Trump, fuck fucking whoever the fuck he proposes and who you know. Peepy. Right now I'm just focused on my recovery. That's it. Fuck Pee Pee. It's not matters to me. All that shit from me and my recovery. You know what I mean?

Thee Gooch: 52:09

Peepee.

Remo: 52:11

So yeah, that's my input on that. That's right. Can you hear me? Yeah, I fucking hear you.

Thee Gooch: 52:17

What phone do you got?

Remo: 52:18

I don't hear the gooch.

Thee Gooch: 52:20

No, you don't. You don't?

Joe and Thee Gooch: 52:23

Ask him what phone I do. You're doing something. Ask him, ask him, ask him, I asked him what phone does he got. Do you hear the gooch? The gooch says what phone do you got?

Remo: 52:34

I got iPhone 7.

Joe: 52:37

The iPhone 7? 4G? 11. He says.

Remo: 52:41

At this point, I don't give a fuck. I'll take anything to fucking Android, the fucking anything, as long as it's the 5G.

Joe: 52:47

Jeez. Because I've been hearing that sounds annoying. I don't think there's enough power in the street.

Remo: 52:56

Kevin! Kevin!

Joe: 53:00

Yeah, so I mean you could hear the I know I can hear it too.

Remo: 53:06

I think I probably gotta send the phone in right now because it's stupid. Okay. Fuck you! Okay. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe and Thee Gooch: 53:19

Fuck you. But um, so yeah, dude. Uh this is a weird fucking concept was going on. All these protesters, they're all like protesting, they didn't know what the fuck is going on. They don't even they didn't even have an answer for it. You know, that's not they're paid protesters, dude. That's all that's a lot of concern. Oh shit. Yeah, you're fucking right, dude. You know, the day they captured them, the next day they had so many posters printed out. Who's paying for that? I know, right? Even even the ones that the ones that were parading in the gas station and shit, they they they're you know, they're saying they're having fun, right? I mean, they were happy and all that stuff. I go, I put one of the comments, I go, damn, that was fast they printed these fucking postal signs, you know. Under 24 hours, they had so many Venezuelan flags, all these you know, anti-Trump posters, they're all nice too. Like, who's who the fuck's actually behind all of that shit? And some some of them like they're all about the Trump signs too. Oh, thank you, Trump, and all that stuff. I go, Damn, they fucking got that shit quick. I go and ask how did they get the signs really quick and uh already said and done? Oh, it's because um there's uh a store around there where you live, you can you know they're everywhere. I go shit. I wish they were around, maybe because I'm in a blue state or something like that. But oh, there was one that sent me um an Amazon fucking website. This is where you order them. We'll go fuck with that wasn't fast delivery, you know?

Thee Gooch: 54:52

That was way fast.

Joe and Thee Gooch: 54:53

Yeah, you know, oh shit. Fuck, I get my fucking suavecito for fucking in three days. I mean two days, you know. Sheez, how did you get to fucking protest in that fucking same day, you know? Oh, they really had them already. They they were like ex-voters and this and that. To me, they don't look like they're voters to me, you know. It's almost like it was planned. Yeah, dude. That's what I was thinking. I think they were like probably all of them. I don't know, dude. I'm just saying, like maybe some of them are paid actors, you know. Oh, they're definitely played paid protesters, dude. Pro yeah, I know I know one guy was caught being paid in the last five years like 20.5 million dollars from someone, and he gives a little to here, gives a little there. Yeah, you know, everybody's involved. I was like, Riemann's right, it's just everybody's paid to be divided.

Joe: 55:49

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's true.

Joe and Thee Gooch: 55:53

But um, but the way it looks at it, the way it looks at it, I mean, it's not telling us a lie because they're all happy about it, they're all right there celebrating, you know. Yeah, so but uh like in my final words, dude, I'm happy they caught that fucker. And people from Venezuela are happy. Yeah they're actually gonna live now. I mean, you could say they're told too. They're telling you, dude. Especially elderly, dude. Yeah, one of the one of the residents in Venezuela, the citizens in Venezuela was saying that you know it's a dictatorship, right? It's a dictatorship. So they have electricity on Monday and then they turn it off Tuesday, and then they turn it back on Wednesday, and then turn it back off Thursday, and then back on Friday. They may or may not have electricity over the weekend, you know. It's just it's just a horrible way to live. It is, it is, but it's fucking crazy, dude. I mean, more powers. I mean, congratulations to the Venezuelans out there, you know, they got the freedom. Yeah, I shouldn't, I don't know how it is over there how to be under a diction dictatorship out there, so I don't know to judge or not to judge and all that shit. Like these protesters, they don't know what they're fucking protesting about. They're right there fucking blabbling their mouths, you know. You know, oh, there's war, stop the war. There was no war. I don't know what they're talking about.

Sound Effect: 57:24

How are you guys?

Thee Gooch: 57:26

Yeah, so like I said, I mean, they're just mad because the John Donald Trump has the balls or the guts to do this, and the last four years of of the democratic uh president presidentials, or the last president, they didn't have balls, they didn't have guts to do this, they were just fucking being a coward, you know. In other words, we're like French, you know, you know, coward away, you know what I'm saying? No offense to the French, but we all know the history about that when they got scared and all that stuff, they don't want to, you know, have the guts to do anything, to be strong, be strength, and all have the strength to you know to to fight, you know. Right.

Joe and Thee Gooch: 58:08

And uh and Donald Trump was the only person that did it, you know. I don't know if I'm correct. Correct me if I'm wrong, Gucci, but no, you're right. I mean, he he stand up. I mean, and and you know what I'm this is what I'm thinking too about the the last day of Christmas or what Donald Trump said. I'm thinking that he's going all out, dude. He doesn't care if China gets involved or Russia gets involved, he doesn't care if it's nuclear war, he's gonna go all out and stop all this madness. This is what I'm thinking. And when he he when he stops all the madness and all that shit, hell's gonna break on loose. You know what I'm saying? Better get ready. Then um, and then and I think Colombia's ready. I mean Colombia's ready. I think he's gonna try to get Colombia now, and he's gonna try to get Mexico. That's why I'm thinking that he's he's trying to go all out, you know, because you got real your Ukraine, right? Ukraine and Russia. So if Russia's doing this to Ukraine, why cannot Donald Trump do the same thing to what's going on in Venezuela? Now Muslim Putin's getting involved. Oh, I think it's illegal that Donald Trump did what he did and all that stuff. You know, same shit. You know, it's good the hypocrite the hypocrisy is real, you know. And like and uh like everybody says that if Donald Trump cre uh cures cancer, they'll still be against him, you know. And I think Russia is only butthurt, Putin's only butthurt because he gave roughly, I think it was either six six billion dollars worth of air defense systems for Venezuela, and the and the United States destroyed it all when they went to go arrest us. Oh, that's why. Oh, that makes sense. But in our constitution, the president of the United States has all the rights to do what he did, yeah, you know, and then you hear a lot about that he needed to get congressional approval to go to war. Well, it wasn't a war, it happened less than three hours. Trump they went in and got that dude, and they went out, yeah. And just so everybody's aware that Congress here in the United States hasn't had to approve a war since the last time they did it was World War II. That's when Hitler, right? Yes, that's that's when we were drugged into that fight in World War II. So there hasn't been a congressional approval for war since then.

Joe: 1:00:34

Right.

Joe and Thee Gooch: 1:00:35

So all the other presidents that follow after that, they did like Iraq, you know, Bush Sr., fucking Bush Jr., Obama, right, fucking Biden. Everybody's done what Donald Trump has done. And everybody's butthurt only because it's Donald Trump. No, because I think that the that he had more courage to do it. You know? Absolutely. More courage than any other president had done in their lifetime, you know. And I think that's why they're all pissed off and they're they envy him because he had more courage. Because you know what? I don't want to attack the country because I don't want to go to war. They're gonna attack us and that's it for us. And this is what I think that like I said again, I think Donald Trump is just gonna go all out. You know, fuck it. Let's just get all these motherfucking cartels or let's get everybody that's bringing drugs in the country. Fuck it, let's do it. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, that's a good possibility. You know? And that's why he says that, oh, you know, enjoy your last Christmas, you know, things like that. Yeah. You know. But what did I know? You know? I mean I just a little thought. I mean, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only ones thinking this, you know. Right. But it's like it's uh that's the way it is, you know. So are you gonna go to the funeral or what? Well I ha well yeah, I gotta go. You know, regardless they didn't invite me. What about Chico Che and Yeah, they're gonna go. Did you tell them already when it was? Oh yeah, I already know. I already sent them the the flyer. Do you know what the what the chapel it's gonna be at? It's gonna be in Calvary. The whole wake too? Yeah, Calvary. I don't know where they're gonna where he's gonna be at or you know. But like I said again, like, yeah, it's gonna be there. In Calvary. I was wondering that if did he want to be buried next to grandpa and grandma? That's what I'm kinda concerned.

Thee Gooch: 1:02:37

I don't think there's uh room for them for him to be buried next to him I think yeah, that's what I was thinking too.

Joe and Thee Gooch: 1:02:41

It's only the molluseums, huh? Unless they put him on top. Yeah. I think he's gonna be near uh the new ones, the new molluseums that they made with there. Probably the new ones. Because all I think uh the ground when you bury them in the burial, I think it's already all full and stuff like that. But um Yeah.

Thee Gooch: 1:03:03

Well, I think I go, then it just gives me a chance to see dad.

Joe: 1:03:07

Yeah.

Thee Gooch: 1:03:08

Well, of course, mom.

Joe and Thee Gooch: 1:03:09

And mom. Um just uh I'm still gonna go. I mean I'll hit up I'll hit up our cousin and see what she says. I mean I I I I get it, there's still a morning, you know. I mean, it's hard, you know. They still got their um their mom, Tia Maria. You know. I don't know, they're still a morning, I know how it feels. We got we all know how it feels, you know. Oh, that's the way I look at it. But other than that, Gucci. I think we're done. Remo had real bad audio today. He sounded like the you know, the Charlie Brown on the way.

Joe: 1:04:00

But then again, he sounded like those um like the robots, you know. Yeah. Sounded like that. Those are the only time I touching the buttons, Gooch.

Thee Gooch: 1:04:37

I wanna touch your I wanna touch your button. The button.

Joe: 1:04:47

But um, yeah, dude. Um, that's about it, dude. I think we're done, huh?

Thee Gooch: 1:04:52

Yeah, we're done.

Joe: 1:04:54

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