Remo's Conversation Recovery

A New Year countdown is louder when someone says, “This is my last drink.” We start there—no slogans, no gloss—just the raw tension between a promise and the pull of old habits. From the first coffee-fueled minutes to the closing safety reminder, we sit with what real change demands: structure that doesn’t wobble, friends who call you out with love, and a plan that survives a bad day.

We get honest about rehab reality: rules that shift midstream, staff contradictions, missed outings that matter more than outsiders think. When consistency breaks, cravings creep in. So we press for dignity and clarity—because predictable structure is treatment, and respect is non-negotiable. That includes hard boundary talk: how harassment sabotages safety, why mixed signals push people out, and how leadership can set a tone where recovery feels possible, not punitive.

Then we move from coping to building. We unpack sponsors, meetings, and the 12 steps in practical terms—what a real sponsor does at 2 a.m., why amends are messy but freeing, and how fellowship turns isolation into momentum. The conversation turns hopeful as we outline a path to become a drug counselor: certification routes, vocational support, and the power of lived experience guiding others. Along the way, we ditch the outrage treadmill—political noise, viral “investigations,” and performative journalism—for the work that actually keeps us sober: accountability, community, and purpose.

If you’re staring down a resolution that scares you, this is your map: make it specific, make it supported, and keep your dignity intact when the systems around you wobble. Hit play, subscribe for more unfiltered conversations, and share this with someone who needs a nudge to call their sponsor—or to finally find one. And if you’re going out tonight, please don’t drink and drive.

Chapters

• 0:00 New Year Opening And Shoutouts
• 6:22 Tech Issues And Setting The Stage
• 9:37 Quitting Alcohol And Smoking Resolutions
• 20:12 Rehab Life: Rules, Inconsistency, And Frustrations
• 35:02 Boundaries, Harassment, And Respect In Recovery
• 45:52 Finding Sponsors, Meetings, And The 12 Steps
• 57:32 Career Goals: Becoming A Drug Counselor

Transcript

Joe: 0:52

Música pues What's up everybody? What's up, what's up everybody? What's up? This is the talkers podcast unscripted. My name is Joel, and we have Get's back, everybody, get this back. Remo everybody, Remo is back. What's up, everybody, and we have the Gooch. What's happening, Gooch? What's going on, everybody? Before we start the show, I just wanna say um thank you for all your downloads, everybody. We wanna thank all the downloaders, the ones that are listening. Thank you for all your support and all that stuff and tuning in. Um, I wanna say happy New Year's Eve, everybody. Happy New Year's Eve. Um, I wanna say um thank you, Makenda, for supporting our show. Thank you very much, and we wanna say um thank you, UK, thank you, Japan, Europe, all of Europe, South America, North America as well, everybody. Everyone that's tuning in, even some full of some stand for 10 minutes and parking stuff like Mono Bellam around the city. Thank you very much for tuning in. Yep, we're looking, we're looking. What's up, what's up, what's up, everybody. How are you doing good? Now I got to lock the mouth and lock back in.

Speaker 7: 2:45

We lost Hey Remo, we want to make a miniature robot. Sounds like a robot, huh? You sound like a robot, dude. Hey dude, can you check the volume on your side? Because you guys sound really low. Oh, hold on, let me check. I wish you would stop messing around with those buttons.

Thee Gooch: 3:21

I'm not messing it. It's it has to be his side. Because everything's all good here. Because then if I if I touch this if I touch this, this side, I mean my side, you guys are gonna sound louder than me. Because see, even if I put I I I I put my microphone on loud, you guys are still low. Okay, he's back again. Fuck it, I guess.

Remo: 3:47

Remo. Okay, I'm back. There he goes, there he goes. Yeah, like a little robot, yeah. Did you sound like a tattoo isn't just my shit? I I heard you, I heard you sound like a little chipmunk.

Joe: 4:04

Yeah. It has to be on your end. So what is going on in your building?

Thee Gooch: 4:17

Remo sounds louder now. Okay, so Remo. Joe, you sound like you have your microphone in your butt and you're trying to talk. What the lucky microphone? Hello. See, I can hear you guys a little better now. Okay. So you have the you have your phone on the by the window, Remo?

Joe: 4:47

So you know he's frozen up again. He was doing so good.

Thee Gooch: 4:55

Oh god. Okay, so um so how's it been, Gooch? Pretty good, pretty good. I just woke up from a nap, so I'm a little groggy. I'm a little calm out. Groggy too.

Joe: 5:07

Yeah, I'm a little groggy too, because I wake up at one o'clock in the morning driving the freeway for 45 minutes. So I know how it feels. Right now I'm stuttering too, and I'm drinking coffee just to wake my ass up. Are you drinking coffee? Not beer? Yeah, no beer right now until later on. All that stuff.

Thee Gooch: 5:24

Yeah, I was gonna start drinking right now too, dude, but we'll wait. I'll wait. Yeah. This is gonna be. I I don't want to call it a resolution because everybody fails at resolutions, right? New Year's resolutions, but you hear it here first. This is going to be the last time I drink alcohol. Oh shit. Yeah, I'm done, dude. You're serious? Why? Not that not that I'm like a heavy drinker these days, but we did, you know, come up in the family with a bunch of heavy drinkers. We did a lot of drinking ourselves, and I was bad at one point in my stage, but now I think I'm done. I'm done drinking.

unknown: 6:06

Hey now.

Speaker 7: 6:07

Oh that's understandable. What about you? You're supposed to be like good for you, bro. Fucking, you know, you instead you're sad. Yeah, no.

Speaker 4: 6:18

Okay, look green. George, you better you look at me.

Thee Gooch: 6:23

Yeah, Remo. How many times have you been saying about the Apple phone? You're gonna you you're gonna buy me. I'm gonna get the Android, and Android is and fucking uh Apple iPhone and all that shit, and then what you buy the uh the the Android and then you switch it to a fucking iPhone. Back to iPhone.

Joe: 6:41

That's what I don't know. I don't know, you know?

Thee Gooch: 6:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this time no, this time I'm gonna quit drinking, dude. I'm done. Tonight's the last night. Um I don't want uh I told Joe I don't want to call it a resolution because everybody fails at resolution, but this time I'm done drinking. It's not it's not because it's a resolution or 2016. I thought about it. I think tonight's gonna be the last time.

Remo: 7:04

I I say that's gonna last about two weeks to a month, tops. Thanks a lot, bros. I mean, you're doing it for your own good. I already know. He's gonna get tired, he's gonna be one of those nights where he's tired and he fucking, I mean, he's like, you know what? I fucking deserve to drink. He's gonna fucking go for it. But at least he's doing it for it.

Thee Gooch: 7:22

Like, you know what? I work too hard not to drink, yeah, yeah. And get all fucked up. You gotta see me at the bars and shit. Yeah.

Joe: 7:29

But at least you're doing it for your well-being, you know? Yeah, actually. Yeah, yeah.

Thee Gooch: 7:36

I'm actually, yeah, I'm gonna quit drinking. Tonight's the night. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. Okay. Watch I call you guys tomorrow. So fuckers. Yeah.

Remo: 7:49

My resolution is gonna be uh to I'm gonna try to stop smoking cigarettes because uh, yeah. Jeez. I got I got I got a couple cigarettes left in my last pack down there, so that's gonna be the last of it. No, even after I'm done with those cigars, I say I'll probably just stick to this after that, and we'll see where it goes from there.

Thee Gooch: 8:07

Nah, if you guys challenge me to quit smoking, you guys are on your own. I won't do that shit.

Joe: 8:13

I mean, I I could challenge you that I went, uh I haven't smoked for what since uh 2015. That's like what seven years?

Remo: 8:22

So and me with my smoking, it only comes with the addiction. So like I'm already over the addiction, so I uh now that I smoke cigarettes, I get as well now, but like it's still kind of there, the linger to want to smoke, but it that Ask was gonna overcome it, and I'm just gonna end up stop smoking because that's just it. Like that. So that's how when you see me smoking cigars, that's the giveaway.

Joe: 8:44

Dude, when I went to go visit you, Remo that day, all the smoke. Oh my gosh, dude. I felt like I was congested, dude. Like, oh my gosh, I couldn't speak. Like, well, not speak, but like I was getting congested already. Like all that smoke was right there.

Thee Gooch: 8:57

There was a lot of people smoking there.

Joe: 8:59

Well, yeah, well, they were smoking, but I can't stand a smoker anymore. The what?

Remo: 9:05

That's the smoking patio. That's right there with the hazard.

Thee Gooch: 9:09

Even even if I I do have nicotine, like a patch or a nicer gum or anything to still help me stop smoking, it just doesn't help me, dude. I turn into a raging asshole if I quit smoking, try to quit smoking.

Joe: 9:22

Jeez.

Thee Gooch: 9:23

I'd rather not.

Joe: 9:24

Now you you'll be claiming the walls, huh?

Thee Gooch: 9:26

Yeah. And then yeah, dude. I just smoking for me. That's probably if I'm gonna have a bad habit, it's gonna be smoking.

Joe: 9:33

Sheez. I don't know about I don't I don't know what's gonna be my resolution. I don't know. I don't even think.

Thee Gooch: 9:41

How about your new year's resolution should be quit touching the fucking buttons?

Joe: 9:46

I'm not touching the buttons. I'm just everything's all completely put.

Thee Gooch: 9:53

You know?

Remo: 9:54

Yeah, I'm just I know. So how you doing, Remo? I'm alright, good, good. This place is it testing my fucking patience, but I gotta just deal with it. Yeah. That's part of the recovery. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I I I've come to learn that that yeah, you just gotta fucking, you know, you can't have it my way, I can't have it my way all the time. And right. But see, this is the thing I get that gets me fucking pissed about this place. Fuck you! And they want us to be consistent and be on time and be get it together and do things the way it's supposed to be done, and be, and, and, and, but yet they can't fucking do it, right? Yeah, they can't be on time, they can't be consistent. Like to this week, we're supposed to go to Ross, right? And that's like a highlight for a lot of us here. Fuck yeah, we're gonna go to Ross, I'll be able to get me some fucking clothes, some shirts, or whatever the fuck I need. Yeah, right. And and and and it's and it and and in our situation here where we where we get commitments, we get jobs that we gotta fucking fulfill and do. Okay, well, if you're not gonna do it, let's say I got KP. KP is when you got kitchen duty, you gotta work in the kitchen all day. Now, let's say you got an AA meeting or you're sick, you gotta find someone to fill in your position to do it if you wanna go take off to an AA meeting out on the street, right? So we're supposed to go to fucking to to Ross on Tuesday, but the dude who one of the staff members that takes us was sick, right? Which hopefully he gets better. I heard he was in the hospital and whatnot, but but okay, besides the point is, okay, well, that's the case, and then hey, another staff member has to fill in that position and take us now, right? They they they they promised because that's that's the that's what they're supposed to do to us. Every week out of the month, we're supposed to go one week is a smoke stop, the next week is Target, the other week is I forgot the other trip is, but one of them is Ross, right? And and and they're not, they're like, you know what I mean? And they lag it. They've they fucking boast it. Like they fucking like we miss weeks where we don't go nowhere, and it's like, what the fuck, bro? Like, we need to fucking and and and these are the things that keep us sane here. These are the things that keep us fucking happy and content and and make it make it fucking tolerable to be here and and and you know, yeah, yeah, but they deprive us of that shit, you know. Then it's like, oh, I'm sorry, we're not gonna deal with that. That's so and so's job, so they're not here, so so too bad. The fuck, too bad. Let us fucking yeah, let us fucking answer you like that and say, Well, you know what? Uh so and so too bad, too bad. Yeah, make it make sense and lead by example. That's my shit, right? And I let them have it too. They had a fucking survey. I fucking survey that shit, motherfucker. Oh, motherfuckers need to get it together here. They need to fucking be more lenient with the tobacco and with the phones, and they need to fucking stop playing and and they contradict each other with the rules here. Yeah, one staff member will say this, and then the other staff member will say otherwise. And then it's like, well, and then on the paper, it says what the fuck it's supposed to be. The the like I'm gonna give you an example for the AA meetings and NA meetings. The paper says must be turned in the day before the meeting. Yeah, okay. So then fucking they say no, or if you want to go to a meeting from fucking Monday, Tuesday, you have to turn it in by this day. If you want to go to a meeting on fucking Friday, you have to turn it in by fucking Sunday. What the fuck? Anything later than that? So what the fuck does it say in the paper one day before? Why is it misleading misleading the fucking, you know?

Joe: 12:53

Right, yeah.

Remo: 12:53

And it's fucking, it's it's it's all fucked up right here.

Joe: 12:55

It's like a big old mix-up, huh?

Remo: 12:58

Yeah, they they all contradict each other and shit. And even on the time, the timelines for the fucking for the fucking the schedule, they fucking always change it up and shit, like for the phones to turn in for the fucking this. Like they have it on the wall written. Bro calls at this time, this time, and this time, but then they when they decide they want to change it up, they change it up. So it's confusing. How the fuck are we supposed to take current and be able to remember what time is this when you guys change it up?

Joe: 13:19

Right, yeah, yeah.

Remo: 13:20

Like with the fucking with the chores, right? We get daily chores here at 8 15. We're supposed to go and do our chores. Everyone gets assigned a different chores. Some do the restrooms, some do the fucking vacuuming, some do the cleaning downstairs, some do this. Everybody has something to do, right? So they're not do the tours, you go there and you get your room tidied up. My shit gets tidied up in the morning when I wake up and it's fucking bed made, everything's put away, everything's neat and organized, right? Which is hard because you know I'm a messy motherfucker sometimes. So fucking uh, so so so so the yeah. So by eight twenty, by nine twenty-five, we're supposed to be cleared already and be able to go downstairs and fucking get a cigarette break and then go to roll call. They change all that shit up. And I like to do what I like to do. So when my chores are done and everything, I like to get in the shower because I'm not gonna fucking be the rest of the day all fucking sweaty and fucking sushi and and and and and and go to group all fucking sweaty and dirty from cleaning the fucking restroom. Fuck that. So I try to get the shower in real quick and you'll go downstairs and get some cologne or something, and they always change it. Oh, the house hasn't cleared. Well, what the fuck? The house is supposed to be cleared by 9 fucking 30. Oh, yeah, but uh, and then this and that. Man, and then the other day, too. They had a fucking roll call. And they weren't even ready yet. I said, All right, I'm gonna go spark a cigarette outside. I sparked a cigar, the main director walked outside. What are you doing? And I'm like, Oh, I'm smoking a cigarette uh-uh, give me that. So I'm walking and I'm hitting it as I'm walking, so she's getting mad because I'm hitting it. You're still gonna hit it in front of me. I go, Well, fuck yeah, man. What the fuck? I'm not here for fucking following directions. So she took away my smoking privileges for that break, cigarette break time. I was pissed, I was pissed, I was pissed, but I just I held it in. But then it's stupid though, because as soon as she takes the cigar and tells me to go back in for roll call, I walk back in and they say, Okay, break time, roll call's gonna be in 15 minutes. I said, What the fuck? Like, make up your fucking minds here, man.

Thee Gooch: 14:55

But it's almost like you're living with your parents again.

Remo: 14:59

Yeah, exactly. Holy fucking A. Fucking A. That's what I'm saying. And and that's what I wrote on the thing, too. And staff needs to stop talking to us like we're fucking kids because we're fucking not, you know what I mean?

Thee Gooch: 15:09

But yeah, shit like that makes it hard. That that would that that can break a motherfucker from rehab. Exactly. That's what I said.

Remo: 15:15

That's what that would make a motherfucker just want to bounce and say, fuck this shit. A la verga.

Thee Gooch: 15:18

See, that that right there already makes me want to have a beard.

Sound Effect: 15:22

Nice!

Remo: 15:24

But it's but it's fucking ridiculous, man. Some certain things that they do here, especially now, there's this other director, she's nice, super nice. She's fucking cool, like she's understandable. Like, there's been times where I'm late before the cigarette breaks because I'm downstairs doing the laundry and I lose track of time. Yeah, and I'll go upstairs. Hey man, can I get a cigar from the front counter? Oh, yeah, you missed the times. I was like, oh fuck, I was downstairs doing the fucking laundry. I got a track. I'm sorry, you gotta wait. Oh man. So I say, man, fuck this. I'm gonna go ask the main director, the main, main, main one. And I go, excuse me, you know, you know, I was downstairs doing the laundry, I might I missed the track of time and I lost my cigarette time. I said, Okay, if I can just grab one cigarette and have a smoke outside. She's like, Yeah, yeah, that's fine. I'll let them know at the front desk. I'm like, cool. And they kind of hate that shit at the front desk because I'm like fucking overriding them and contradicting them. But fuck that shit, man. La Velga. And the other main director is you can't even talk to this. She's the type of woman that that like if the fucking if she says the fucking sky is fucking uh green, the sky's green. Fuck it. You have to agree with it, you have to go with it, whatever. It's all right, cool. Yeah, you're right, you know?

Joe: 16:19

Right, right.

Remo: 16:21

But this shit's fucking a little nerve-wracking sometimes, but I just gotta deal with it. That's crazy. And you can't stay in your room all day, or you have to be active. Nope. You have to be downstairs. Like right now, we have the house open. The house is gonna close at 4:45. Uh-huh. I gotta go downstairs and go to Roll Cough. They do more counts here than they do in fucking prison. That's the only thing about this fucking place. But it's a good place, it's a good program. Like when you go to group and passes, I get a lot out of it and I share and I and I talk. But the rules, like, like, and then some days, like like after that, the house. Well, today they're gonna open it because it's New Year's Eve. But the house won't be open again until 9:30. So you can't come upstairs to your fucking room till 9 30. It's like, what the fuck? I want to go upstairs and chill and fucking lay down, take a break, rest, relax. You know?

Joe: 17:02

Yeah.

Remo: 17:02

No, but you gotta be downstairs, either do something in the ballroom to walk around, or or be outside. It's like, what the fuck? What else is there to do out here? You know, I just want to go upstairs and chill. Let me go fucking chill. Let me relax. But that's why I got the laundry job. They keep me busy, so I won't fucking have to worry about anything. Time flies in there when I'm holding laundry, watching all the sheets, all the blankets, all that shit. Right. If you don't find something to do in this motherfucker, you know what I mean? Or a place that's quiet, because sometimes you want peace and quiet. Yeah, you want peace and quiet sometimes. And it's hard to find peace and quiet in this motherfucker because you got a bunch of fucking people that are coming first off the streets that don't know how to fucking act and fucking running wild all drinking flashback right now, watch.

Joe: 17:38

Yeah, that's all I wonder. I thought it was a ghost.

Remo: 17:42

It probably was, yeah. But but this is wild right here, man. People like people leave every little while and shit because they can't take it because it gets higher eating. Not only that, because it's a it's uh there we go. I'm on the phone.

Thee Gooch: 17:59

Yeah, I mean, yeah, like that's someone off the street, yeah. No, resident.

Joe: 18:10

I got a QR code. Oh, really? Was he hitting on you?

Remo: 18:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's another thing that's a little nervous, motherfucker. What they do that shit, bro.

Thee Gooch: 18:19

I don't knock these fucking feet though, dude.

Remo: 18:21

And that's the thing though. That's the thing. That's where they just test the fucking patience, bro. Because then after and after they play victim, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So so today someone left because of that shit, because people don't know their fucking boundaries and don't know how to fucking respect other people's. Like, you want me to respect your fucking chisel, your choice, and your shit. Oh, dude, I would have fucking lost my shit. I know.

Thee Gooch: 18:43

That's fucking crazy. Hang in there, bro. Uh let me go close the fucking year because you got you got you got plenty, you got plenty. Um, how many months already? One more month. He's got to go. Two more months. Two more months. Oh my god.

Remo: 18:55

Coming up coming up on Sunday, coming up on Sunday will be fucking one month. So I got two months left after Sunday. But this is the thing. This motherfucker comes in because I guess he wants to get their stuff for fucking New Year's Eve. He has the wig on and makeup on and this and this and that, right? Hey, he comes in and he goes like this, like on the doorway, like he's all little kid. Like, I'm gonna be like, oh my god, like what the fuck?

Thee Gooch: 19:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Remo: 19:13

Yeah, come on, bro. Like, you know, you know, you know that's not my get to help me, but you still insist on throwing little comments, saying stupid little derogatory fucking things. You know what I mean? And I ain't a bitch, I ain't a rat. I'm not gonna go complain to the front desk, but at the end of the day, like he already told him that hey bro, like you know what I mean? Like, I respect what the fuck you're about, what it is, whatnot. But just you gotta chill out. So this thing motherfucker right there makes some other dude feel uncomfortable. And he left this morning. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

Thee Gooch: 19:36

See, I wouldn't be able to fucking tolerate that shit. Fuck.

Remo: 19:39

I mean, and it's like as it is, I'm gonna be comfortable that day, you know. Oh, and you seen that shit when you it was the one that was doing all the stupid, yeah.

Joe: 19:48

And he left, no, is it super flamboyant?

Remo: 19:52

Yeah, yeah. I mean, and and the thing is if I speak up and say something to him and shit, then they pick victim and they fucking say that it fucking you know triggers them or whatnot, and this and this and that. But I'm gonna push the issue to try to get him to fight. This is ridiculous, bro. This shit's fucking, you know, and I'm a nice guy, I don't I don't fucking trip on people like that. You tweet their own whatever and whatnot. To me, sometimes it's funny. Certain moments are like certain moments are fucking funny. I laugh at the shit they say, you know what I mean? This and this and that, whatnot. But this one just doesn't know his fucking boundaries. You're making me think like he's a fucking top match fucking like bro, you're a fucking shot out as old fucking geezer. Yeah, yeah.

Thee Gooch: 20:35

And that's the problem with that. That's the problem with them. They they they want to be accepted, they want this, they want that, but at the same time, they have no fucking boundaries.

Joe: 20:44

Yeah, they don't. That's true.

Remo: 20:46

You know, they don't know what's they though. The main director got up there on the stage and she said in Harmony Meditation. Means she told us like she told them that they gotta know the fucking boundaries and they gotta stop doing that shit and respect that. Like, you know what I mean? When this isn't a fucking meat market or none of that shit, you know? Then then I don't know what I'm wrong. I'm flattered, I'm flattered that I'm yeah, yeah. You know, don't don't don't, you know. You're not gonna fucking you're not gonna make me change my mind otherwise, you know. I mean, and and this is the thing with these motherfuckers. No, no, no. This is the thing because I've I've I know a couple people from the past, and this is what they tell me. They don't they're they're gay, but they don't like gay guys, they like straight guys, and to them it's trying to get in a gay guy and try to turn them out. I'm sorry, motherfucker, it ain't gonna happen here.

Joe: 21:26

You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like uh it's like um they don't know when to uh to quit, dude. They I mean they they know I forgot why I lost my train of thought.

Thee Gooch: 21:36

You know, it's like 50 Cent. 50 Cent came under fire because he said if a straight man gets involved with a trans woman, um, you know, which is a man dressed like a woman, he's gay. And a lot of people are like, no, that's not true. No, if a straight guy is with a fucking trans woman, you're fucking gay. Yeah.

Remo: 22:00

Walks and talks like a duck and shit, and it's a motherfucking dog. It's a fucking duck.

Thee Gooch: 22:04

Yeah, you know, just because it looks like a girl and it has a fucking dick, that doesn't mean make her a fucking girl.

Speaker 5: 22:10

But for my mother's patients, yeah, a lot of dudes he end up fucking turning out. My lot of roommates, my yeah, my roommates ends up talking, oh yeah, I'm biker, he ends up hooking up on one of the fucking tiny looking motherfuckers, and I'm like, what the fuck? Oh no, yeah, there's another dude that's listening, but I don't want to talk about it because I don't know this shit.

Thee Gooch: 22:27

But are they do they at least look like close to women or no? No, no, no. It's like if I threw a I have a beard on my beard. It's like if I threw a fucking wing on. Oh man, I would be scary.

Joe: 22:54

Oh man, this is crazy, man. It's crazy, man. It's fucking crazy. Anyone out there that I got a QR code, if you guys want to join us live for 15 minutes, it's right here. Just uh aim your camera code right here. If you guys want to join in. If you guys want to join in and jump into the conversation, aim your camera to that QR code, everybody, to join us for 15 minutes.

Remo: 23:19

Yeah, we got we got a new listener too, Santa Clarita.

Joe: 23:22

Oh, we do?

Remo: 23:23

Yeah, my girlfriend. Oh probably watching it right now. She's watching it right now. She's probably watching it right now on the uh on YouTube. You want to give her all her name or nah just yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, just fucking put the address to where we're at.

Thee Gooch: 23:43

It's fucking put her number on her.

Remo: 23:54

But this place, it's wild. It's a good place. The program's good. Like the program's good, but the rules that they have are stupid. Because even some of the facilitators would be like, I don't agree with most of the shit, majority of the shit that they do with the way they run it here, like the program, but they're just here to facilitate and help out the residents, which I gotta give up to the facilitators. The facilitators are great people, they're fucking real cool as fuck. You know what I mean? They're real cool. But you got certain status and that, like, and it's a small fucking world because I know like one of the dudes that worked up front desk, I know his people, like whatnot, this and that. The other dude that works at night shift. I know his homeboy, they're from like the same fucking uh area. I know his homeboy, I used to work with his homeboy uh downtown, you know?

Joe: 24:37

Uh-huh.

Thee Gooch: 24:38

Yeah, but it's crazy. Are you learning anything in there right now? Yeah, I'm definitely learning. I'm actually actually putting in the extra footwork because when I was here 10 years ago, I wasn't trying to absorb none of the shells. I was just trying to get through because it was court ordered, it was mandated, you know?

Joe: 24:53

Right, right.

Remo: 24:54

I did it straight, the good way. I didn't fuck around, I didn't get in trouble. I did everything I had to do. I even got jobs, I was like, you know. But as far as like like paying attention in group or like fucking like putting writing, doing the assignments to doing the reading the fucking the narcotics anonymous book, I wasn't doing that shit, but now I am, you know, because if I did it back then and it took me pretty far, and then this time I do the footwork and I actually put in the fucking reading and get a sponsor and go to meetings. You know, I want to see how far more it will take me, what it'll do for me, you know?

Joe: 25:23

Right, right, right.

Remo: 25:25

Like, in order to get my eight-hour passes, I have to go to meetings and I have to get a sponsor and I have to do a fellowship. Now, the sponsor is I go to a AA meeting and I ask someone to sponsor me. A sponsor is someone that will look over me and help me and help me. No, I sponsor someone who will help me with uh with uh with the program and do the 12 steps. Now, the 12 steps is the 12 steps of of Narcotics Anonymous, and and you're supposed to do each step and answer it and do it. And some of them are fucking crazy because one of them is like, I don't know what one is, but you're supposed to make an amends to the people, like like mainly, like you gotta go and reach out to them and be like, hey, you know what? I'm sorry for because I did this and I did this and this and this and that. You know? And then after that, he's like, you don't know how it's gonna end after, or or you gotta admit, and then it's it's crazy. And then the sponsor helps you out with that. The sponsor is someone that you can call when you're having a craving, when you're having when you feel like leaving this bitch, when you feel like fucking going and using your car sponsor, hey man, I'm having these fucking thoughts, man. What the fuck? Like, you know, and he'll walk you through it, hey right, relax, chill out, this, this, this, do this, you know. I'll I'll be on my way to pick you up, you know. So a sponsor has to be someone who's dedicated to the program and is dedicated and is willing to fucking stop doing what they're doing just to come and see you or to talk to you, you know what I mean? I know, okay. So so I'm supposed to I'm supposed to get one of those, and then the fellowship. The fellowship is when I go together with someone and their sponsor to go out to like meetings and shit like that and just have a gathering, you know? Yeah, but and then after that, I could put in for an eight-hour pass to go out on the weekends for eight hours. So that's my that's that's I went to a meeting, the first meeting I went out to was like a week ago or two weeks ago, and it was wasn't my my bag of my my my um my cup of tea, if you know what I mean. But it was a meeting I was able to go. I've been to meetings before on the streets, but this Friday I'm actually going to a meeting that's right here in Sunset and Silver Lake, which I know the guy who owns the cafe, and I know the dude. And I reached out to him, hey bro, are you do you facilitate? Is that your panel? He's like, Yeah, that's my panel, bro. And he's been in recovery for a good while. And the crowd that he hangs around is that a good crowd, you know. So I'll put I'll probably, that's my I'm hoping to find a sponsor there when I go on Friday night to that meeting. And then, you know, get this process started of actually knowing how to do this whole fucking narcotics anonymous and and and and doing it the right way with the program, you know, what what the program expects of you and how they how they they say that if you follow the because this is their their their thing. If you follow the guidelines and you follow our fucking our our four steps, then you are guaranteed to succeed and to fulfill your fucking like staying sober sobriety, you know.

Thee Gooch: 27:45

Yeah, what the white guy, dude. Get a sponsor who's white. Well, well, yeah, that's gonna be right there, sunset silver lake. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, make sure he's white. I'll tell you why. Because that motherfucker, you he'll fucking he'll set your ass straight. Yeah, he'll even take the champion.

Remo: 28:02

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Shit like that. You know what I mean? Sponsors do that. They they they get you and they they take you to places, they take they do things for you. Yeah, they look out for you. I mean, uh a righteous fucking sponsor, that's what they're supposed to do. A lot of them don't have a good word. A lot of them fucking don't don't even bother to do that. A lot of them will fucking make you feel like oh, you know what?

Thee Gooch: 28:18

Read chapter seven, read chapter seven and write me an essay on that.

Remo: 28:22

Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? I could do that myself, you know?

Thee Gooch: 28:25

Yeah, but no, but seriously, like they're they're they're into it, dude. They're like a hundred percent into it. Yeah, they take that shit like like religiously, yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Remo: 28:34

Like, and then and then there's some people who have like fucking 20 years under the belt of being clean and sober, and that's like, oh fuck, you know? That's fucking crazy. But main thing I'm going for right now, what I'm really gonna try to get into is the the whole uh drug counseling. You're gonna you're gonna get into that, like yeah, I'm gonna go for it. I'm gonna go to school for it. I'm gonna have to have them set me up with it for here. I already because even the counselors here, the facilitators, they're they're they told me you will make a great fucking drug counselor. Yeah, great doing this. And and I'm like, that's I've always wanted to do that, but I just don't know where to start. So one of them gave me a pamphlet of where to go, which is there's uh the schools right there in Huntington Park off of fucking Slauson and Santa Fe.

Thee Gooch: 29:11

That'd be fucking excellent for you, guys.

Remo: 29:13

Crescent college. So he said, you know what I mean? And then some other counselor here told me, some other facilitator told me that he did his course online and he's not even certified, but he can still work. But to get certified, it takes like 13 months or some shit like that. And they charge you, they charge you like 5,000. But right here, when I'm 30 days to the house, I could get DOR, which is like vocational rehab where I go and they pay for everything. They'll pay for everything, whether if I want to go back to school or if I need if I'm need interview clothes for interview, they buy my clothes. If and then after I get the job, they'll buy clothes for work and they'll buy me tools for whatever job I got lined up. But if it's a schooling I want to go to, they'll pay for my schooling and my books and clothes for school and all that shit. Can I give you advice? Uh do the schooling. Yeah, and I'm gonna do the schooling, yeah, definitely.

Thee Gooch: 29:56

Because you're getting older. Like, I wish I could do that because you're getting older, you need something established. Yeah, no, definitely.

Remo: 30:04

Trust me, I'm gonna do it. Yeah, I'm gonna do it. Yeah, you can be on that number for the next 20 years. I got I got I got experience from that shit, like a motherfucker, you know what I mean? So it's not like these other, it's not like some other facilitators were they just got experience from learning from what they learned from the classroom. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean I actually got the fucking footwork experience, you know. So and yeah, and right you've been out there. Like just just like just just a little while ago before I started the show. I fucking uh there was some dude that they wanted to leave. He wanted to fucking leave, and but this dude always goes up onto the podium and talks into the microphone and he talks about God and and religion, and he makes some good valid points. So fucking um he he it it shocked me when he said that I heard that he wanted to leave. I'm like, what do you mean you want to leave, bro? How the fuck you mean? You're you're the one that thought was getting up on the podium and motivating people and giving people inspiration to stay and and to and to be God, you know. You speak words of God and this and that, and now you're speaking otherwise. Well, how does that make sense, bro? I go, that's fucking crazy, bro. You motivate me and you inspire me to fucking stay here and to fucking want to get this thing done, right? And and and you understand you inspire other people in this fucking room and you're gonna want to leave. What do you think they're gonna say? What the fuck? How's that? He's inspiring me and now he wants to leave, so what the fuck? So it should be easy for me to leave too. I said, What is what's the reason that you want to leave? I told him, is it that you want to fucking is it something here that's bugging you, something that you don't like here? And he's like, No, I just want to put a fucking needle in my arm. I said, Okay, and then what? After you put the needle in your arm, well then what? What are you gonna do after that? I go, you're just thinking of the quick little high. After that, you're fucking you're high. What are you gonna do after that? What are you gonna do after the fucking five hours from that? What are you gonna do for the rest of the night? You see it's fucking raining out there. What are you gonna do? You're gonna be soaking wet in the fucking street, fucking, you know what I mean, wanting to get high again, chase the same high over and over and over and over and over again. Fuck that, it ain't worth it. I go, your man, you speak all this about God, the book of God, and now you're letting Satan win. I go, come on now. I go, I get it, I get it. I go, I can't I can't figure out what you got going on up here. You might be battling your own demons, but don't let the motherfuckers win, man. I suggest right now you go back inside there and you read the fucking Bible and you get, you know, get over this little fucking craving you got. It'll go away, it'll be temporary. But yeah, he wanted to leave and leave, but now he I mean, hopefully he doesn't leave. Hopefully he went, you know. And he did. I walked back in. I seen him when he went and got his Bible and you sat down and you started reading it. So well, here's a question for you are you gonna get into the Bible when you get out?

Thee Gooch: 32:13

Or are you reading the Bible now?

Remo: 32:16

I'm not reading it now. I'm not, you know what I mean? Like I haven't even really prayed like the way, you know what I mean? I should be praying, but I don't know, like they say, you gotta believe in a high in a power higher than yourself. And a lot of people don't like right here, this it's it's it's a mixed up controversy with the whole power higher than yourself. Some people are like, there's some people are like, I my higher power is the truth, my higher power is the the the AA meetings, my higher power is this and this and this and that, you know? So, and then plus the you know how the LGBQ community religion is thrown upon that, you know what I mean?

Thee Gooch: 32:45

Right, yeah.

Remo: 32:46

So it's kind of mixed up here. Like, right here, they don't even talk about that shit in here, but right here, you're allowed to ask for a Sunday pass to go to church and they give you like four hours of pass. Oh, that's true. So I'm gonna start requesting that shit just to go and go to church or do whatever you know what I mean, but but they don't they don't advertise it, they don't want you to know it's like a loophole that someone found that's a fucking, but they they have to respect it and grant it, you know? Right, right. So I'm gonna start asking for that. And see, like, you know, go pick up desk and then go to church and just chill and then come back, you know? But it it's a lot of people here, they just like yesterday, my roommate got kicked out. I don't know for what, well, because he he couldn't stay still. Now we'll have talks with them every fucking night. You need to focus, bro. You need to focus on yourself. You're right here running around, being wild, intermingling with everybody. You just want a wheel in deal, you want to sell stuff, buy stuff, you're selling tobacco, you're you're you're trading tobacco, you want to smoke all of my tobacco, which I already fucking told you is not gonna happen. It's like you meet someone and instead of saying, hey, what's up, bro? How you doing? You look at their shoes, oh, those are my shoes, what do you want for them? Like, I tell them, bro, not not everybody wants, yeah, like that. And like that, bro, not everyone's a smoker like that. That's gonna sell all their shit to you, bro. Like, what the fuck? I go and top it up. You don't even have money to buy the shit. You're gonna go win and deal somewhere else, try to get that. You're selling your hats, and then after that, you want to buy the hats back. And then it's like, bro, you're lucky you're not in prison, homie, because you would have been dealt with a long time ago. Like, that's not those are manas, homie. I tell him, those are fucking manas you're doing. I gave him a fucking brand new paste of two big old tube of toothpaste, but he wants to use this guy's toothpaste because it's better, it's better. He wants to try it out. Like, bro, those are fucking manas, homie. Again, I'm telling you, those are manas. Like, you need to stop that shit. And get your priority straight.

Thee Gooch: 34:17

Are you surrounded with it uh by a bunch of liberals, or that doesn't matter in there?

Remo: 34:21

Like, so far, no one even knows what the fuck's going on in the world right now with the fucking, you know what I mean? Liberals, well, it has to be liberals, of course. Obviously, I would I would assume so. But yeah, no one no one really talks politics here. There's a couple older guys that you know, but I still I don't even talk politics anymore. I'm out of the politics game. Fuck all that shit. It doesn't matter. You know, me too. All it does, all it does is that hasn't stressed to you that that that's out of your control. Out of our control, yep. That's all it fucking does is out of stress and frustration and fucking fucking shit, fucking shit, fucking shit, and it's out of control. So why the fuck even bothered paying attention to it? Because either way, whatever the fuck happens, the same shit's gonna happen. We're still gonna have the same struggle here. We're still gonna have fucking our daily lives to deal with. You know what I mean? Nothing gets better. No, it's the same shit. But it it's it's it's like, you know what I mean? Fuck all that politics shit. That's just a fucking propaganda shenanigans show to fucking divide the people at the same time, you know.

Thee Gooch: 35:09

And you know, in the beginning of the of the year and the show and whatever.

Remo: 35:12

Yeah, we were we were hardcore. Yeah, me too. I was all hardcore into it. Like, now it's like fuck Trump, fuck everybody, fuck it off, fuck it.

Thee Gooch: 35:19

I mean, look at all the corruption that's going on in Minnesota right now, dude.

Remo: 35:22

Yeah, yeah, and and and especially and especially with fucking um, see, I don't even know what's going on in Minnesota, I really don't. But especially with this whole ice race going on that the motherfucker did out here and all that shit, that was kind of fucked up. You know what I mean? That was fucked up. That's that's and now what I did here because I've been listening to KFI radio, is that Trump's buying something and I don't know where, I think what what country, but he's buying, they're buying a bunch of fucking empty warehouses and they're gonna convert them into fucking detention centers. And I'm like, what the fuck? That's fucking concentration camps. Yeah, for the immigrants. And I'm like, it's crazy. And then I seen an advertisement the other day on YouTube saying, if you're here, Leo, Leo, this is not you could this because this will be you, and has a bunch of people getting lined up going into an airplane, and supposedly what they're doing is they're paying these people a thousand dollars to voluntarily get up and leave on their own fucking terms and go back, and here's a thousand dollars, yeah, and a thousand dollars. I te va. Yeah, you know, here's my thing on immigration. Hold on, hold on. But this is the thing, though, but this is the backbone of America, homie. These are the motherfuckers that get up and work, the gardeners, the fucking cooks, the fucking hotel cleaners, the fucking everything, bro. You name it, this like you know, nobody wants to do those jobs, especially the fucking farming fields. You know what I mean? You know, you know, I talk shit. Sometimes I sometimes I talk shit about my race, I planned, I talk shit, but at the end of the day, I live with these motherfuckers around in my area, so I get to talk shit about it. I have the right to these motherfuckers talking shit and judging and discriminating, don't know anything what the fuck they're talking about. You know what I mean?

Thee Gooch: 36:39

I'm gonna I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna back title. But in the beginning, when they were when they were with all this whole ice shit, yeah. It to me, my opinion is fucked up because you're watching people lose their lives, but at the same time, my shit is like we know many people that have been here for 30 years and they did nothing for it, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right.

Remo: 37:02

Yeah, but see, they're not even targeting those people. I know, but see, because those people are under the radar, they're not working with the fucking, they're not trying to fuck, they're not legitimate, they're not even on the fucking, they're not even know they're here.

Remo, Thee Gooch: 37:12

The people they're attacking are the people that are on paperwork, the people that have been into the system already that either whether it's been through through through a credit card application or through this or to jobs they because they applied to the jobs in the right way, and and and you know, and I hear this this administration, and I'm gonna get back to the administration, but anyways, but but I heard that this administration wants to give permits while they're here working to get their papers. You know what I'm saying? There's a program that is gonna come up for that for the for the people that do that shit. But this administration, I'm not gonna fucking lie, has been a big, huge disappointment.

Remo: 37:49

It's not like it wasn't the first fucking the first term, it changed up. I don't know what the fuck happened. This fucking old geezer fucking guy, I don't know what the fuck, but something's going on. Something's going on, but a lot of a lot of people are disappointed. You know what it probably is? It's probably they probably told this motherfucker, you know what, you better play bar with us this time, motherfucker, do as what you're supposed to do, or we're gonna fuck you over with the Epstein bullshit. You think that's what I think because that whole Epstein shit, you know what I mean? Like, come on now. Where we're the files, where's all the fucking legitimate shit at? Like, you know, I mean, that let's let's we keep it 100. You know what I mean? You seen the emails that went out, supposedly somebody was stuck in someone's PP and shit, and this and that, and woofy woof, you know, but but yeah, I don't know.

Joe: 38:28

That's what I think they would have they would have let them out four years ago, right? Gooch, yeah.

Thee Gooch: 38:34

That's the see that's another thing that has me on the flip-flop, you know, under Joe Biden's DOJ, he could have fucking released them to prevent, but see, Biden's on that shit too.

Remo: 38:44

Every one of those motherfuckers are on it. So they're like, you know what I mean? So so so Trump probably thought he had his shit covered up and that he wasn't gonna come out because he had paid off and he was making sure that wasn't gonna come out. But no, they said, no, fuck you, everything's going down.

Joe: 38:56

But they're saying that the but they're just saying that Trump is the one that's the whistleblower and all this shit, that he's the one that you know and so he found out that his shit fucking was stinking too, maybe, maybe not. Huh?

Remo: 39:11

So he got his so he got caught with the fucking his hand in someone's butt. But you gotta understand he's a fucking creep too, you know. I mean, he was talking about, you know, like he's a manacle, he's a perv, you know. I mean, like most old fucking guys are, you know what I mean? But who knows? I am.

Thee Gooch: 39:29

I mean, let's let's face it, not for real, okay? If we were if I'll speak for myself, if I was a billionaire, and you know how you know how I am with women, right? Growing up, I would be a fucking yeah, you would be a I would have fucking maids and swimsuits.

Remo: 39:49

Oh, yeah, but see, but at the end of the day, you'll be paying for that. You'll be paying for that to have those services. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a different story paying for and having services where they're agreeing to it and that's what they're there for. That's their duty. But if they're doing it to to random people, to random, like thinking that they could do it to anybody. Now that's a different story because they just can't do it to anybody. Not everyone, not every girl or every female wants to be fucking thought of or touched at that or felt like that, you know. Even though they put themselves in some situations where they're putting themselves in that, but still, you know. But if you're fucking paying, like, like let's say, like these rappers, right? These rappers got all these fucking broads all around. There, these bitches know what the fuck that's gonna be going down there to the rappers and all the fucking the groupie shit, you know? It's like rock and roll, rock and roll, all the fucking rock stars, all the bitches that go want to meet a rock star, they're they know what the fuck to expect. You know what I mean? So there's a difference between what the fuck it is and what it's not, because if they're doing it to random people, let's say the rock star has a maid and he's fucking fucking around trying to get at the maid at the the house cleaner, then the house cleaner is like, This is not my job. My job is to come and clean your house. Why the fuck are you coming at me like this? That's a different story. But if it's like, you know, these little groupies that are just going to go party and kick it, and they want to fucking just you know be all up in the Mix, then yeah, they know what the fuck time it is, you know. They can't fucking be crying after, oh my God, you fucking did this bitch. What the fuck were you doing there partying, popping bottles and drinking and fucking getting high?

Thee Gooch: 41:01

Stupid, you know. And that's the thing that bothers me the most with this whole P Diddy shit. Not now, everybody wants to come forward. Yeah, have you seen the documentaries?

Remo: 41:10

Yeah, I gotta watch. I seen some, I seen some of the beginning of one of them. I don't know if it was the 57 one or I don't know which one, but I didn't get too partners, I only got it to episode one. But it's kind of crazy. I don't know, but see, my thing is is like why not speak up on it like back then? Why not why now? Now why now when there's a money grab you're gonna do it?

Thee Gooch: 41:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, the the beginning of the P. Diddy uh documentary, it was it was fucking slow, but we started getting into it and entering into it. Yeah, right. It's fucking crazy.

Remo: 41:42

Yeah, but um what's up, who nobody, I'm on the phone. What's up?

Remo, Thee Gooch: 41:47

Yeah, is that homeboy? Nah. I'm sure. I'm saying his wig.

Thee Gooch: 41:55

What happened to his wig?

Remo: 41:57

But yeah, but it's crazy how all that shit just fucking, you know what I mean? It it it it's crazy, man. It's crazy. I can't even call it, I don't even want to speak pamper on it. Sometimes it's fuck the less we know the better. Yeah, yeah. People say, hey, did you hear about this? It's like nah and her shit, but like at the end of the day, it's better because I don't need another stupid thing frustrating me in the fucking head, you know. Right, um, that's all honestly. Like, like, look back at the shows that we did and look how fucking worked up and tripped out and fucking mad we were at shit that was out of our fucking control, that we had no say so in that we thought we were fucking making a difference by talking about it and fucking doing this and this and that. Like, no one gave a fuck if anything. We just look like pendejos getting all worked up over it, you know.

Joe: 42:33

Yeah, that's true.

Thee Gooch: 42:35

Yeah, and that's where I'm at, dude. All this all this fucking talk. Oh, we have evidence of corruption, all this evidence, and nobody's getting arrested. Yeah, no sure. Yeah, you're right. That's where I'm at.

Joe: 42:46

I'm gonna play a clip. All right, and you know Nick uh Nick Shirley. Now, Joe, grab me. You know Nick Shirley, right? If it wasn't for this fucker, dude, now everybody's jumping the bandwagon, everybody's going to be a news. Now everybody wants to be a news reporter now, okay. Journalists. A journalist, yeah. Well, they could they call it investigator, investigator journalism, okay? Like Clark Kent, you know what I'm saying? Everybody wants to be Clark Kent, you know, but all of a sudden, everybody wants to jump the bandwagon. Okay, here's the clip. All right, just tune in. Hold on, hold on, okay, let's see.

Clip: 43:25

Here in Minnesota, massive fraud is taking place within the government and the Somali population. Here, this building alone, Quality Learning Center, is a daycare, yet they spelled learning wrong and they said learning. This daycare alone in 2025 has received $1.9 million from the government. And the strange things about these child care centers is there's no one here right now. It's midday on a weekday. And if you were to try to go inside, it's completely closed, and the windows are all blacked out, no one's working. Midday children should be in here, and this place is licensed for 99 children, and this is the outside. There's no windows, no nothing. And like I said, they literally spelt the word wrong on their sign. This is open and blatant fraud taking place here inside of Minnesota. The government is complicit with this, and this is just one of the hundreds of child daycare centers here inside of Minneapolis being ran by the Somali population. It's sad that it's happening here in Minnesota, and it stinks that it's happening and it's being labeled on the Somali population. However, that's just the facts of what's happening here inside of Minnesota. 1.9 million dollars for this daycare center that can't even spell learning right.

Joe: 44:48

Okay, from TikTok. I got another one, and let me know what your thoughts are about. I think he's still there. I think so. We're in the room all here inside of this. You're there's uh, I just um we can't see you though. Yeah, we could hear you.

Remo: 45:04

Well, we can't see you. Okay, well, I don't know what the fuck you did. You just fucked up the whole shit.

Joe: 45:09

No, I just put the uh happen.

Remo: 45:12

Yeah, but I couldn't even hear the video do not or see nothing.

Thee Gooch: 45:15

Well, you can see it.

Remo: 45:18

Oh, there you go. Oh shit. Uh oh.

Thee Gooch: 45:22

Ah, it was you all this time.

Remo: 45:24

See, no, no, no, I was gonna lock back out. I was gonna lock back out.

Thee Gooch: 45:27

I thought, I thought, I thought. Don't move.

Remo: 45:29

Okay.

Thee Gooch: 45:30

Can we go now? Can you hear me?

Speaker 3: 45:32

Here's another one.

Thee Gooch: 45:33

Before I want to I want to hear your thoughts.

Clip: 45:34

Okay, here's another one. Now, this should be an equipment mall here inside of this neighborhood. In fiscal year 2025, this facility, which says it's licensed for 74 kids, was paid 1.26 million dollars in tax money. And there are no kids, and the all the facilities are the same way. All of them. Let's see if anyone opens.

Speaker: 45:56

Yeah, let's see.

Clip: 45:57

Once again, I try to find a spot for my son Joey, and they would not open the door. I want to put my son Joey in daycare because I need a spot to put my son Joey. Yes. Is this your daycare center?

Joe: 46:14

Okay, so what are your thoughts? Hello, Remo? Gooch. Oh, fainted. They're gone. They left me. They're just they disappeared. Who are you guys? Wow. I mean it takes it takes him to do everything, and now everybody's jumping in the bandwagon right now. So yeah, so Gooch? Are you there, Gooch? So it took it took uh Nick Shirley to jump in of everything that's going on. And he's the one that was investigating. Alright. And I just I mean now everybody's jumping the bandwagon. Now everybody's just I don't know what the fuck is happening.

Thee Gooch: 47:05

I hope I hope they could they can hear us in the podcast, dude, because you guys are low on my end. When you play the video, it's fucking loud.

Joe: 47:12

No shit?

Thee Gooch: 47:13

Yeah. I'm low. You guys you're like really, really low.

Joe: 47:19

I mean, I have full volume right now.

Thee Gooch: 47:23

Just when we when we're done, just replay it. See how it sounds, dude.

Joe: 47:27

Yeah. But I mean it's good, it's good in my end.

Thee Gooch: 47:31

Because I have my mic, I have my mic on full blast. My earphones are on full blast. I can barely.

Joe: 47:39

No, you sound you sound good, dude. But yeah, so I'm thinking that everybody is jump trying to jump on the bandwagon and all that stuff. And uh everybody's doing what Nick Shirley's doing. I see it in every time in TikTok. Everybody's doing the same thing now. All of a sudden, everybody's just waking up. You know, yeah. But uh yeah, just letting you guys know. That's the the tips that I have and all that. I got your tip right here.

Thee Gooch: 48:14

Hey, I'm gonna be a grandpa grandpa again. Again, no shit. My daughter's pregnant.

Joe: 48:22

Oh, right. Really, huh? She's gonna have a boy. And um, have you talked to her? I haven't. It's been a while.

Thee Gooch: 48:33

There you go. Fucking hey, can you guys hear me? Hey, you haven't seen a picture of my granddaughter, Oscar Remo.

Remo: 48:40

Uh no. Oh, can you guys hear me?

Joe: 48:45

Yeah, yeah.

Remo: 48:45

Okay, yeah. See, every time you play those videos, it fucks up my whole shit. I don't know what the fuck was wrong, but I thought it off.

Joe: 48:51

That's weird.

Remo: 48:52

I don't even I don't even know who the fuck Nick Shreve is. Sounds like a fucking bitch to me.

Joe: 48:58

Well, he's the one that um investigated everything about what's going on, the fraudulent and all that stuff.

Remo: 49:04

But like it's like what the Gucci says that uh but that's everybody's no one on TikTok thinks they're a fucking reporter now. You know what I mean? You go to TikTok and say what do we need to use briefs and new briefs, this and that. Okay, news update, this and this, and this and this and this and that. Yeah, okay, to each their own, fuck it.

Joe: 49:17

Yeah, well, yeah, because he's getting paid. I mean, that's the thing, you know. They get paid, they get paid for that shit, you know. Imagine how much he's getting from TikTok, you know, you know, instead of busting your ass out there and like fucking you know, shit like that, you know. But like you said, Gucci, everybody has to be held accountable for it, right? It's like when you said like last week on the podcast, you said that that if we would have been us porn people, we would have been fucking instead of the iris, too. That's what's pissing me off, too. If if we would have cheat the iris like like dad, they they got my dad for I don't know what the fuck, you know, one little thing for that one little thing. The iris gets you, you know.

Remo: 50:03

Yeah, what's that remote? I think the picture, she's beautiful, she's so adorable. She looks like a little teddy bear. Yeah, I got is that the same picture? Is that the sick picture you said? She looks like she could she could uh do a toddler, toddler uh commercial, huh? Yeah, like the fucking uh advertising.

Thee Gooch: 50:21

The new Gerber baby, yeah.

Joe: 50:29

But I think she has uh mom smile, dude. I think she has my mom's smile.

Speaker 5: 50:32

She has the features, she has all the features of uh Draven when he was a baby.

Thee Gooch: 50:36

Yeah, yeah.

Remo: 50:39

That's crazy.

Thee Gooch: 50:40

My my daughter's pregnant too, Oscar.

Remo: 50:42

Oh yeah, Jocelyn?

Thee Gooch: 50:44

Yeah, that's cool.

Remo: 50:46

Have you talked to her?

Thee Gooch: 50:47

That's crazy. It's been a couple, it's been a couple years since I've detected her.

Remo: 50:52

I'll get there. I'll work out. Who knows? You know what I mean? It'll work out. Just pray on it, you know? Yeah, pray on it, manifest it, whatever you want to call it. You know what I mean? Because you know, praying is manifesting, you know what I mean?

Joe: 51:03

That's what's getting there. Yeah, um, yeah, so that's what I was saying. Like, you know, like we will be held accountable for fraud in it. You know what I'm saying?

Thee Gooch: 51:18

So what are you guys doing tonight, Joe?

Joe: 51:20

Uh nothing. I was gonna get drunk and be stupid. Yeah, yeah. You know, like the uh Christmas Eve, I really got torn up, you know. Oh, really? Yeah, fucking I wasn't by myself drinking, you know, like the family they only drink two beers apiece because I bought like I think a 48 pack or 40 pack. Oh shit. So I drank one 12 pack for myself, and I have one 12 pack for them. So I took I took two from them, they took two, they took two. So I drink the rest of the four. And and month the next day I was fucking hangover out. Yeah, yeah. But um, see, he's blaming me, it's him. Look, it's Remo doing that shit.

Thee Gooch: 52:08

Ava when we're done, just play it back and let me know. Shoot me a text again if it comes out good or not.

Joe: 52:13

Yeah, no, okay. When I play the video, okay. You sound when I sound uh when I sound loud, when I look it up, I sound low. When you when it when I have this the audio when I'm editing it, you guys sound louder than me. I go, how's that? Right, you know, you guys sound louder than me and then you made some adjustments and now I can't even hear you. The what I think it's the I think it's your microphone, you're loud. You're you're supposed to lower your the computer, and then you gotta have your mic.

Thee Gooch: 52:46

I'm using my cell phone.

Joe: 52:51

Ay ay aye. I think it's your it's the are you using the Wi-Fi there? My wi-fi? No, the uh Remo Remote All right.

Thee Gooch: 53:17

I think Remo froze.

Remo: 53:30

Ten minutes? And then roll calls at 445. All right, cool.

Thee Gooch: 53:38

All right, guys. Uh I think we're here. Yeah, yeah. Is your is your wife good? Let me see.

Joe: 53:51

Remo. Wow. Hi, Mr. Engineer. Hi. Here's where I got that from. How was it private parts? Yeah.

Thee Gooch: 54:11

I was gonna I was gonna send you videos of of who died this year, uh 2025, but I didn't know anybody. I mean, I knew Malcolm Dramon Warren Warner died, yeah, and Rob Reiner was a piece of shit. He died and his wife. Jeez. Oh, remember that? You think remember how we used to watch the different strokes, the TV shows? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like the gooch, right? Remember that that little girl used to come out in the wheelchair, right?

Joe: 54:45

She died, she passed away. Yeah, they were just talking about her on TikTok. About what was what we're where is she now? Yeah, yeah.

Remo: 54:54

Yeah, three days later, she passed away.

Joe: 54:55

Yeah, she passed away.

Remo: 54:56

Oh, so there's two different ones in the bottom in this one, yeah.

Joe: 54:59

But yeah, would you think the the Rob Reiner? His son. He's been a bit too yeah, I think so. Yeah. Because he was he was mouthing a lot of shit out to Donald Trump, huh?

Thee Gooch: 55:19

Yeah, he he uh he was he was bad. He was like a string, extreme leftist dude, like really extreme. He was okay with getting mutilated, cutting their, you know, taking hormone pills and shit. You know, yeah. Yeah, he was he was outspoken about that shit. That it was okay for kids to learn that shit in public school and shit.

Joe: 55:43

Right. Jeez, man. But you know what? I didn't know he was that I knew the actor that played uh uh all in the family. Yeah, yeah. But I didn't know it was him until when they told Rob Reiner, oh gosh, that's a fucker. I thought that guy died up died a long time ago. Yeah, you know, yeah. But um, on the TV show, the on the family. No, the his name. What was his name on it? Fuck, I forgot, dude. Meaty, yeah, something like that. I forget yeah, and then he directed um Stand By Me, the movie. He directed Misery. I didn't know that. And um forgot what else. But uh he did he he he he I mean he he directed good. I'm gonna I'm not gonna lie, but you know, but yeah, what's up with Remo? Remo, did you get stuck? He's frozen, he froze.

Thee Gooch: 56:33

All right, mama. I'm ready. I gotta take a shower. I got out of work, took a nap, but I didn't even shower. Oh now my bed's dirty. Butthole juice.

Joe: 56:43

Yes, hey Remo. Uh, we're gonna leave already. We're we're done for today. I wanna say happy new years, everybody. Have a good, safe, happy new year's eve. We have Remo, he's back, and um and we have the Gooch. So um happy New Year's, everybody. Um, I just want to say thank you for your downloads. The Gucci and I really appreciate it, and Remo, we really appreciate it as well. Uh, any last words for you, Gooch? Um, where were you guys?

Thee Gooch: 57:20

Please don't drink and drive.

Joe: 57:22

Don't drink and drive, everybody. What you have any last words, Remo? Well, he froze up again.

Remo: 57:29

Huh?

Joe: 57:30

Yeah, you have any last words?

Remo: 57:31

Hey, can you guys hear me?

Thee Gooch: 57:33

Yeah, me?

Remo: 57:35

Do you have any last words? Yeah, nah. Uh just uh happy new year, everybody. Stay good, stay good, be good. If not, you end up in here. Not saying not, but nah, just not no words.

Joe: 57:47

No words, all right, guys. Uh nothing. But be safe, Remo. Happy New Year. Happy New Year to you guys too. And YouTube, Gooch, happy new year, YouTube Goochie. Um, happy new year. I just want to say thank you for your tuning in, everybody, and um peace out. And um, we have The Gooch, Remo, and I, the producer and the host, too. And uh, thank you, everybody. Thank you very much. Uh, stay safe, and um all I can say is um, BYE!