Remo Confronts Addiction And Chooses Recovery

A dropped call, a shaky signal, and then the truth lands: our brother Remo relapsed after years sober, lost his job, totaled his car, and vanished into shame. What follows isn’t a tidy redemption arc; it’s a candid account of how cocaine slid into meth, how late nights and familiar faces reopened old doors, and how a traffic stop and a smart case manager pushed him toward a rapid diversion program that might save his record—and his life.

We walk through the real logistics of recovery: court dates, Medi‑Cal approvals, chasing a bed, and learning to live inside structure again. Roll call, laundry duty, limited phone time, group therapy, and Narcotics Anonymous turn chaos into routine. The emotional work runs alongside the rules. He starts calling his daughter again, listens for disappointment to soften, and sets a boundary around a hard conversation with his dad on the advice of counselors. He names triggers with clear eyes—late drives, old hangouts, the barbershop rule—and chooses boring consistency over another flash of excitement.

We zoom out, too. There’s a quick movie pick (No One Will Save You on Hulu) and a strong take on California’s refinery exits, special gasoline blends, and why gas prices could spike as policy reshapes supply. But the heart stays with recovery: the dirty street supply, fentanyl risk, friends lost, and the way support systems—from partners to persistent case managers—make the difference when willpower alone falls short.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Tech Issues And Warm-Up Banter
• 5:47 Remo Returns And Opens Up
• 9:12 Relapse Timeline And Consequences
• 13:22 Hitting Bottom: Job Lost And Isolation
• 22:32 Arrest, Diversion Program, And A Lifeline
• 29:22 Rebuilding Ties With Family
• 37:02 Boundaries, Triggers, And Staying Away
• 48:02 Rehab Life: Structure, Chores, And Support
• 58:22 Quick Tour Of The Facility
• 1:07:02 Check-Ins, Gratitude, And Next Steps
• 1:09:32 Movie Break: No One Will Save You

Transcript

Thee Gooch: 3:13

I don't know what's going on, dude. It's probably on your hand, Joe.

Joe: 3:16

No, I can't just I have everything here set up good. Everything is here. His mic is good. It's it's uh it's probably his phone. How everybody, what's up, what's up, what's up, everybody? Hey now. What's up, what's up?

Thee Gooch: 3:38

I told him to log out, to jump off, and then to jump back in.

Joe: 3:42

Yeah, there you go. This is episode 17, season three, everybody. How's everybody doing out there? Just to let you guys know that Remo's back for for only for 30 minutes. We're just having no difficulties of his uh the sound, the audio.

Thee Gooch: 4:01

That's accidental. Okay. I bought we're having some technical difficulties for sure.

Joe: 4:14

Yeah, you you I it started a sound already, but yeah.

Thee Gooch: 4:21

All right. How are you doing, Joseph?

Joe: 4:23

Hey, never here, Gucci. Trying to see how everything is. It's a Saturday. Everything's going good.

Remo: 4:32

There you go. I could hear you now. Can you guys hear me? Okay.

Thee Gooch: 4:34

Okay, we could hear you guys now.

Joe: 4:35

We could hear you too. So how you been, Remo? Welcome back. Welcome back. Now, but yeah, I went on a fucking stupid little uh little turning. Uh-huh.

Thee Gooch: 4:51

I heard you I I heard you started walking in the desert and then you fucking got lost.

Remo: 5:02

Really are good to have you back. Well, welcome back, Remo. Thank you, thank you.

Joe: 5:11

Yeah. So what what happened? What's going on?

Remo: 5:15

Uh it's a little something uh that I've been familiar with for a couple years of my life for the past like what we'll say, maybe 20 years that I've been struggling with that I thought I had under control. It's called uh little thing called the Yeah and uh you know I mean addiction is I had a little relapse incident that started, I would say maybe in about the early stages of like October of last year, more or less. Yeah, October of last year, I started, you know, meddling, you know, and back into my addiction, back in old habits, old stupid ways, thinking I had it under control. Yeah, but it like with it was a relapse, it started like with uh Coke, you know. I started fucking with Coke, going out to Coke, partying, you know. I mean, even when I was doing the show with you guys, you know what I mean? I was a little coked out, you know, you guys just didn't know, you know, nobody knew.

Joe: 6:00

Oh my gosh, you serious? You know what I mean?

Thee Gooch: 6:05

I knew. I knew. I didn't know that I couldn't even tell. I knew because you're you're being an idiot. I know all I know, all I all I know is that I hadn't talked to you in like in almost a year.

Remo: 6:24

Yeah, January is like when I started and I started using fucking uh mess again, and and and from there that's where I felt shame because I lost my job. I had a fucking good job, I had a city job, I had everything going, I had a car, I was on top of everything, I was doing good. Right. And that mess just got a grip on me and just made me lose everything. I fucking started fucking up at work, started fucking showing up late, and I was still in my probation period. I lost that. I totaled my car, so I was like, fuck, you know what I mean? I felt shame. I didn't know up high no more. I didn't even know how to talk to you guys no more, you know what I mean? I didn't know how to how to talk to anybody, you know. So I just left the house, I just hit the street and I was out there, you know. But I was out there, you know, not to glorify my fucking addiction or anything, but I wasn't I wasn't doing bad. I wasn't fucking tumbalu, I wasn't susio, I wasn't dirty, I wasn't all fucking like, you know, like the way I know you guys are probably imagining me, picturing me that I was fucking on the curb, fucking dirty, up clothes.

Thee Gooch: 7:18

Yeah. Well, I mean, if we're gonna get personal about it, and I you know you want to talk about it. I thought, you know, I had my days where it's like, because you are my little brother and shit, right? That you know, what if my brother's dead, you know, we don't fucking know it, you know?

Remo: 7:40

I felt better.

Thee Gooch: 7:41

That fucking pissed me off, bro. I'm not gonna lie, cause uh wanna hear it, and you know, being in the addiction, you know, you you you you it blocks it out, it makes it easier and it numbs it. You know, I mean I even got distant from my daughter Destiny, poor thing. I I just I I stopped talking to her, I don't keep in touch with her like every two weeks and shit like that. I would call her check in on her, see how she was doing, and little by little like I would hear her in the voice, you know, the the the heartbreak, the disappointment, and whatnot.

Remo: 8:07

And she even said, you know what I mean? No, I'm still here. I I used to give her the shit I used to do like the pep talks and the shit and everything, and she threw that shit right back at me, and that shit fucked me up, you know. But when you're addiction, that shit has a grip of you, and it's hard to get the fuck out. I'm not gonna lie, you know what I mean? Yeah, that shit had me. But I still I just knew I had to get the fuck out of it. I knew I had to snap out of it. But it was hard, it was hard. It was, you know, when you're in your addiction, you're out there fucking doing stupid shit. But you know what I mean? Like I I was managing, I was doing good. You know what I mean? I even got to the point where I was fucking selling the dope, you know, and and and that shit even made me feel like a hypocrite because I used to talk so much shit about it. Oh fuck, motherfuckers poaching into the community, this and that, and I fell right back into it, you know.

Thee Gooch: 8:56

All it is, bro. All it is, bro, it's just an obstacle in your in your road, dude.

Remo: 9:01

Yeah, it's another bump. It's another bump in the road, you know what I mean? But I was I was able to you know, I went for a 12-month fucking run, you know, which is way too long. But in the addiction, that shit went by quick. That shit seemed like it was just a three months, you know.

Thee Gooch: 9:14

Yeah.

Remo: 9:15

I knew I had to get myself into a in in a facility program treatment, and and it it just like I kept telling myself since fucking September. I gotta get it, I my my my service is shitty right here, too in this building. Well I I knew I had to get myself in recovery, but I I just kept fucking up. I kept fucking up until like in August, I got fucking I got I got stopped, I got pulled over, and I got fucking uh can you guys hear me?

Joe: 9:48

Yeah, you're just breaking off.

Thee Gooch: 9:50

You're breaking up.

Remo: 9:51

Hello?

Thee Gooch: 9:52

Yeah, can you hear me? Yo, can you hear us? Hello, hello. Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Can you hear me? Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello. Yeah, we just can't see you. We just can't see you. Hey, log off again. Yeah, so there we go.

Joe: 10:19

Yeah, so like I was gonna tell him that um the last time oh, I was gonna ask him the last time um I knew he was on it.

Remo: 10:27

He's back on you guys. Yeah, yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah, perfect. I can't hear you.

Thee Gooch: 10:38

Uh oh. You're in you're in recovery, bro. He's in here. Who love the volume dude? I was supposed to send them uh earbuds too, but he never sent me the address of where to send them. I don't know if they're able to get, you know, mail like that. I don't know.

Joe: 11:41

But um the la the last time um I was in the I when I saw him, it was two years ago, I think. Last Christmas.

Thee Gooch: 11:49

How how is last Christmas two years ago?

Joe: 11:53

Last Christmas is two years.

Speaker 3: 11:56

No, it's a year.

Thee Gooch: 11:58

Was it last year? Yes, last year was the last time you seen him in Christmas on Christmas.

Joe: 12:03

Something like that. I forgot.

Speaker 3: 12:05

That that doesn't uh add to two years. You guys hear me? Mama.

Joe: 12:10

Yeah. All right, well, yeah, like I was saying, yeah, you know, I got arrested in fucking August and uh I got sales, and then when I went to court, and I was like, fuck, I don't want this shit on my record, you know. So I was trying to fight it. So they told me, which was everything, like I said, everything happens for a fucking reason and and and it helped me out again. Okay, they told me uh I qualified for the RB RPD rapid diversion RDP rapid diversion program where they said do 90 days in the program and we'll dismiss your charges. So I was like, fuck it, let's do it. But even at that, I could have like I could have been done with this program already. If I would have joined already in October, I would have probably already been done already by the end of this year. But I was just delaying it, delaying it because I was still in my addiction, delaying it, delaying it, delaying it until my court date came. By the like this fucking uh Project 180, the the the program that that that that approved me and got me into this whole thing. There was this my case manager, Amber. She's the one who stuck by my like she stuck it out. Like she was always calling me to have me called, and I would just pull it off. Like, oh no, I haven't called, oh no, they didn't answer. Oh no, you know what? I couldn't get through. Oh no, they sent no beds. I was just bullshitting, you know? Yeah.

Remo: 13:14

And so she started fucking telling me, well, you know what? I'm gonna go meet you at the park. You know, she what do you want to meet? I told her, meet me at the park right there by where I was kicking it at. So I was showing up and I would show up all burned out, all fucking out of it and fucking tired. She'll put me on the phone, talk to get Medi-Cal to get approved so I could get the so they could pay for it. And I'll fucking find asleep on the phone when she's there and she wakes me up, hey man, come on. And I'm like, oh shit. So then after that, I got the Medi-Cal. Then after that, she was telling me, okay, well, keep calling the patients, but I wasn't calling. And so again, she pulled up and she fucking went and and and and and started calling for me. And the first fucking spot we called, which was the um a treatment center that I've been to before prior to 10 years ago, which was good at helping out, they fucking had a bed for me right away. And they said, You can come in tomorrow. I was like, I was mad, I was mad. I don't know why, but I was fucking mad. I was just my addiction getting me mad that I was had to fucking come to this place.

Joe: 14:03

Right, right.

Remo: 14:05

Man, I was I was fucking pissed. But yeah, so therefore, even at that, I was out there fucking, I didn't get my clothes ready and get ready to leave like an hour before she was gonna go pick me up to take me to to bring me here. And I forgot all kinds, I left all kinds of shit behind, man, all kinds of good clothes, shoes, cooking stuff. I even had a one of those uh a podcast mics that I got in one of the blue, those blue podcast mics.

Thee Gooch: 14:25

Uh-huh.

Remo: 14:25

Fucking lost, I left it behind and everything. Oh my gosh! But yeah, it's it was there's a lot of shit that I went through in between, you know what I mean? But but also I I I ended up to reconnecting with one of my old good friends, uh, that I ended up, you know, getting, you know, she became my girlfriend and whatnot. She was also a good support system, pushed me to get into the program, get into the pro do something, do something. She would talk shit to me, cut me out, this and that. You know what I mean? And and you know, and yeah, so I finally did it. So now, you know, she's still there, she's still a good support system, you know. I thank her for everything and you know, look forward to getting recovered and and and you know, continuing my life with her and whatnot, you know. And I reconnected with everybody, you know. I I and and it was crazy because the same day I got my fucking phone, my Joe texted me, hey bro, how are you? This and this and this and that. And I'm like, oh fuck, what the fuck? What are the fucking odds? Like, just fucking trip the fuck out. What are the fucking odds that like the first week I'm into rehab, he he he reaches out and I'm like, hey bro, I'm good, I'm in rehab, you know, I'm doing all right. I'm I just got this, you know this and then from there I like I reconnected with uh my with with the Gooch, my older brother, you know, with Jaime. So then uh so then from there little by little then I got connected with my sister again. But most importantly, I started talking to to my daughter. And she was skeptical. I told her I was going, I called her the night before, I'm like, hey, I'm going to rehab tomorrow. I said, Oh, okay. Like I had told her before I'm going to rehab, and I kind of felt heard in her voice, like, yeah, right, whatever. You know?

Joe: 15:47

Yeah, yeah. That was kind of my response too when uh Joe told me that you were in rehab.

Remo: 15:53

Yeah, and then and then and then and then fucking well, I mean, I don't blame you guys, you know what I mean. I uh you know what I mean? I I come from a long fucking time of fucking just being on on dope and being fucked up, and you know what I mean? But I'm getting told for this shit, it's not cool. Uh doing it to to to Destiny, doing it to you guys, you know what I mean? You guys have been a great out there. And uh, but yeah, I fucking I I started talking to Destiny more or to my daughter more and more and more. And like every like by the fourth phone call that I called her, she seemed that I was still here and I was doing actually taking it serious and doing what I had to do. I fucking I started hearing her more upbeat, more and more happier, more supportive, more laughing, more opening up to me and talking to me and telling me how her day was, what she's how she's been and this and that. So and then even with uh I even talked to my nephew and everything, and to my niece, to my sister, you know, and everyone's happy that I, you know, the only one I haven't reached out to is my pops, but that's a different story. That's gonna be like, you know, talking. I was talking to my my counselor, my therapist, and they said it's not a good time yet to reach out yet, you know, because you know, yeah. So that in a way that's kind of what fucking threw me back out there is because I was just bored at home and I was fucked. You guys already know, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, I got a lot of men's to make to people, you know. I got to fucking make up for a lot of shit, but that's that takes time, that'll come along the line.

Thee Gooch: 17:04

One day, one day at a time, bro. One day at a time.

Remo: 17:11

I got to get myself right.

Thee Gooch: 17:13

I have a confession to make.

Remo: 17:15

Okay. We already know you like PP.

Thee Gooch: 17:20

The very last time I talked to you, uh almost a year ago, you called me. And at that point, I already knew something was up, right? You called me. Hey, you got 20 bucks, right? Come on, nah, bro. I don't have it. I had it. I really had it. I had 20 bucks I could have loaned you, but I knew what was up. You know, I knew something was up, so I was just like, nah, I don't have it, bro.

Remo: 17:44

The thing, I didn't get dope because I had I had my ways of making money and getting dope. Yeah, I knew what I knew. Something else. It might have been like that's one thing, that's one thing that I've always like said like fuck it. I'm not gonna like I didn't bump nobody for money after that. Like, like, you know what I mean? If I needed it, I needed it for something else, but it wasn't for dope. Dope out there I can get anytime, anyhow. It it's it's not a problem, you know. Like it is like like I told my sister, my sister enjoy everyone's thought I was too bad. I was in the street, dirty, cacita, fucking no shower, no nothing. Nah, fuck that. I always kept my appearance up, you know. I would shower every day, even if I had to go to the indoor pool and fucking, you know, go shower at the pool. I fucking burn. I'm gonna tell you like this. I had fucking clothes that I could never fucking afford when I was fucking working a job. You know what I mean? I had fucking fucking Jordans that were expensive. I had for fucking $600 all because of the dope, you know what I mean? That's what you know, people go and steal the good shit to burn you and they fucking bring it to me, and I buy it with dope, it was this and that. You know what I mean? I'm not glorifying it, I'm not saying it was badass, but that's just the way it works. You know what I mean? To this day, like all the clothes that I have on me that I brought here to the program, all the hats, everything, I didn't pay for the motherfuckers, you know what I mean? The fucking wash, all you know, but it is what it is. You know what I mean? Well, you know, you know, I'm not glorifying that fucking selling dope get you all this and this snap, but I was able to maintain my fucking my appearance. I wasn't fucking, you know, the only thing is I might have gotten a fucking car right here. I fucking ate shit on the bike and fucking hit the concert pretty fucking hard, you know. But $10. Maybe that's what snapped me back into fucking, you know, snapped me out of it. Yeah.

Thee Gooch: 19:09

But I don't want to talk to you like you're fucking five, bro, okay, but you're still my little brother.

Remo: 19:14

No, I know as long that's why I felt shame and it and it hurt me that I did that shit and I just couldn't face you guys. I felt bad went so I know I felt like fuck, homie, the fuck. I I I couldn't keep my head up, you know, because even with my friends like Faco, fucking everyone else, I I I just couldn't, they didn't even know Faco didn't even know I fucking relaxed. I was still going to fucking uh uh metal shows with him. You know what I mean? And I was and I was dope and my pipe and everything in the fucking bag in his car, but I wouldn't let him know because I didn't want to trigger him. I didn't want to fucking, you know, I used to hang out at with the at the bar where I used to help them out around and and pick stuff for them and I used to drink for free and all that shit. I even stopped going there. I stopped, I just kept like the whole world off, man. I just went back to the fucking dope world, you know, and and and you know what I mean?

Thee Gooch: 19:55

I even fucked up. And I think I and I think you know this, bro. Yeah, um, but for as long as you um and you notice I did reach out in the beginning, yeah, but then you know you didn't respond. Yeah, um and to me, to me, no response is a response.

Remo: 20:13

You know, I know the flower like, well, you know what? Then fuck you then. I know I'm pretty fitted.

Thee Gooch: 20:17

Well, I didn't I didn't say I didn't say it like that, but it's fucked him, fuck him.

Remo: 20:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I get it.

Thee Gooch: 20:25

No, but no, but for real. And the reason why I didn't resp you know reach out after that is because I said, Well, I'm just giving him his time. Whatever's going on, he'll he'll fucking he'll come to me when he's ready. You know, and for as long as you're doing good, bro, I will have your back 110 fucking percent. You know this.

Remo: 20:45

But and that's why I didn't ask for nothing because I know I didn't have it coming. I didn't deserve it because I put my what I put in and I know if I'm doing Like I can ask you for anything, it's not it's not a it's not a a a bug, it's not fucking interesting, you know, because if you got it, I know I got it, but at the same time I'm not gonna take advantage of that. I'm coco, you know?

Thee Gooch: 21:01

Yeah.

Remo: 21:04

I didn't ask nobody for for money, I didn't bring them coming guys and be like, hey, because you guys I didn't want to be that type of fuck because he's coming to fucking get money to fucking get hungry.

Thee Gooch: 21:16

And then I one I think I checked the the morgue once. Nah.

Remo: 21:26

I was right down the street, and and so he figured it out, and and some of his friends that that I would see right there, that the his mechanic, that poop Federico, that fucking janky ass fucking mechanic.

Joe: 21:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Remo: 21:35

I would always see him, and he's the only one and told my dad, oh yeah, I see him right there all the time. So then my dad started going and looking for me, and I would see him, but I wouldn't come out of like nah, fuck it for what? What am I gonna tell you?

Thee Gooch: 21:43

Do you think do you think that you think your dad was probably and I don't I don't mean you I don't want you to point fingers and shit because at the end of the day, all of us are responsible for our lives. But do you think that that's not triggered your feelings, triggered your your decision to your motion?

Remo: 22:01

But see, that was my selfish way of thinking, my stupidity at the same time. But yeah, it did because I didn't know how to fucking deal with it. Instead of talking to him, like like you know the relationship I've had with that fool, I've never been able to have a with him. I've never been able to tell him something because of the way he reacts and the way we grew up and the shit he put us through, you know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, that motherfucker has a a big, a big fault into this shit, like you know, right, right.

Thee Gooch: 22:23

And I knew that from the get-go, right? You know, we talked about it all the time.

Remo: 22:31

You know what I mean? All that shit just built up, and you know, I got a lot of shit built up against that fool, you know what I mean? Yeah, I thank him, I'm grateful for him. There's a lot of shit that he just fucking it's PTSD, whatever the fuck you want to call it, but there's a lot of fucking shit that he fucking did, not even to us, but to the family, to my mom. It's resentment, you know what I mean? Yeah, and it's like, you know, for him, like it could fuck nothing wrong, nothing but uh like that he didn't do nothing wrong, like it was all like plays the victim. He guys already know. It's like fuck that shit. I said fucking I feel like a piece of shit too, because I fucking left him behind and he's old geezer and and and you know, but yeah, at the same time, I think he was able to understand it and and and like fuck he survived 12 months. I was like, I would think about it all the time. Fuck, I mean, I wonder what he's doing, I wonder who's doing his laundry, I wonder who fucking cleaning the house, I wonder who fucking reading his his nail for him, I wonder who's doing this, like all this shit that I used to do, and that's the thing that had me stressed the fuck out, you know. Like fuck, I'm trying to mean I'm trying to still try trying to get my shit started, you know. And it was just it was it was a lot, it was overwhelming and shit. And that's kind of like, you know, and and I thought I could party, I could fucking go out and drink, go to the metal shows, do some fucking coke and do this, and I had it under control, and then I started selling it, and then like, you know what I mean? And then I I I fucking crashed the car, fucking I I started fucking with dope, and then you know what I mean. Like, like I'm not gonna lie, with the coke, I was still managing, you know what I mean? Because I was doing coke with shit, I was managing still like uh you know what? I think I was doing coke way before that shit, but I was still managing, you know what I mean? It wasn't as as uh as it it flip my mind as much as the fucking crystal did. The crystal is the one that fucking reads. That's why I always told myself I can't fuck with it. I can't fuck with it because once I fuck with it, I'm gonna do it.

Thee Gooch: 24:04

Well that you know thinking looking looking back at that when you were doing coke, dude, it it it kind of explains it all a lot because you were so aggressive, you're very moody. Yeah, yeah, you know, you were always bad in the bad mood, right?

Joe: 24:20

You know what I mean? So when you were smoking weed, we used to go to Target.

Remo: 24:24

You listen uh Remote and it's really how to go through, you know what I mean? Shake it off the fucking, you know. And I mean and I I would I would always say, like, fuck, I fucking hate this fucking, I hate dope. I fucking hate that shit with the passion. Fuck that shit. Cause we know we had uh a family member of ours, you know what I mean. I'm not gonna say nothing, but that was struggling with that shit from time to time. He will get fall into it, come back, and then fall into it, and then when you were falling with it, back through it, he'll fucking, you know, and I would always try to reach out and look for look from where's this fool at? What's up with this who a fool? What the fuck, stupid? Like, what the fuck wrong with you? You know what I mean? And for me to fall back into that shit, I felt like a big fucking hypocrite. Like, you're a fucking idiot. Like, what the fuck are you doing, you know? But it's it's it's ease that I live with. It's something that I'm gonna have in the back of my fucking head that's never gonna go away. I just gotta learn how to manage it and how to fucking deal with it when I get it. I mean, I don't get the urge to pay, but also another was I started hanging around with old friends. Like, like I said, I would be going out late night, hanging out, fucking go to mail shows. I would drop off uh everybody at the end of the night, and then on the way back home, I'll fucking, you know, it'd be two, three in the morning, and I'm still fucking like I'm on coke. I'm like, fuck, let me see who's around. He's fucking kicking it, like what the fuck, you know. I would bump into somebody right there, hey, what's up, fool? Like, ooh. So that's what took me back into getting into Chris. So I would bump into the old fucking people, my old homies like that, and and and go. So now I know I just gotta stay the fuck away. Even if I know them, if they're homies, then we've been so long friends. Hey, I just gotta say, hey, what's up? And keep on driving, keep on pushing, keep on going, don't even stop. Just say hi. You know, just have to befriend them or not talk to them or fucking hate. I just gotta keep going, don't even fucking stop because I already know what that's gonna lead to. It's like they say you keep going to a fucking barbershop, homie, you keep going to the barbershop, eventually you're gonna get a fucking haircut. And that's the that's what happened with me. I kept showing up to the people, I keep to the fucking little different areas, and eventually I started smoking again. And even at that, when like I was still showing up and I wasn't smoking, I wasn't fucking with this shit, and they were cool with it, and I was like, nah, I'm cool, I'm cool, because I wasn't. But then I just fucking started smoking, and I smoked by myself. Nobody even knew out of the crowd that everybody that doing the crystal and I was selling it to, they didn't know I started smoking. And so one time I started man, fuck this, I'm tired of fucking smoking in the closet. Fuck it. And I started smoking the plow and they're like, What the fuck are you doing? Nah, they tried to get that shit. Oh yeah, man, I just yeah, I fucked up something like that. You guys hear me? Yeah. This one's fucking up too, man.

Joe: 26:56

I gotta get I didn't know that, dude. I didn't know he was uh on that shit, you know.

Thee Gooch: 27:05

There were signs, dude. There were signs, but I mean like ask like Remo says it's live and learn, you know?

Joe: 27:12

Yeah. And um, I was gonna I was gonna ask him right now. Hey Remo. Yeah. Yeah, can you can you hear me? I I think the Wi-Fi is kind of not good right there where he's uh where he's at on. Yeah. I was gonna ask him that on all this time we were going to Disneyland, we went to the movies and all that shit. And was he on it or I was gonna ask him because we're having some technical difficulties. Can you hear us?

Remo: 27:52

There we go. There we go. I got it back. I think it's my fucking glitches, fucking something like me.

Joe: 27:58

Remote. That's coming. All this time when we went to Disneyland and we went to the like what we we used to go to, like the movies, to the mall, and all that stuff. Were you around that shit too?

Remo: 28:11

No, I was sober during that time. That time I was just smoking weed. I was sober, I was good, I was no, no, no, no, no. No, that time. I'm trying to remember when I started fucking around with it.

Joe: 28:19

It was because the the right remember last time, it was last year. When you were your fucking thinning, you were all thin, like skinny, remember?

Remo: 28:28

No, no, no, no. I was going to the gym too. I was working out at that time, and then like I'm trying to remember when the fuck it was.

Joe: 28:38

But the last Christmas, you were you were on it too, right?

Remo: 28:41

It was like like it was the last Christmas, yeah. I was already fucking up.

Speaker: 28:46

Yeah.

Speaker 5: 28:47

So it had to be sometime like 2024, like in the middle of 2024, like like July, maybe.

Joe: 28:52

Yeah.

Remo: 28:53

Not July, maybe like a little bit after July, like but that was the Coke. I was just doing the Coke. Coke, Coke, Coke, Coke, Coke, Coke, Coke. And then after that, I was fucking, I was fucking around with the crystals. Crystals the one I really fucking up. Because the coke I was still kind of glorified. I'm not trying to make it sound like it was okay. I was doing it right. No, I still fucked up because that led me to that. I was like the gateway that led me to the to fucking with the other shit.

Joe: 29:13

Yeah.

Remo: 29:13

Because at the end of the day, Coke is more fucking expensive. Did it I mean?

Thee Gooch: 29:17

To me, I didn't get happen when you when you crashed or when you had that accident. Is that what it happened to?

Remo: 29:23

That kind of triggered it or that's when I was doing the crystal. Okay. I started relapsing when I started getting the job, working for the city. When I fucking got the job, that's when I started fucking up. That's when I was already fucking like I had already started fucking with the crystal. But prior to that, I was doing Coke.

Joe: 29:37

Okay.

Remo: 29:38

But when I started getting the whole I was in the process of getting a job for the city, it was I started working for the city in October. Last year. No, no, no, fuck. Coke timeline's fucked up because this year went by like this fucking around. It went like this. So I I started fucking, I'm lying. See, now I'm getting all my shit mixed up. I started fucking with the crystal like in yeah, like in like November. November? Because I was I was just started working for the city. And that's when I started fucking up, and then I started showing up late. I started showing up late since I was still in a probation fucking period. They didn't tolerate it. The fucking the people at my site told me, you know what, you're a fucking great worker, your ethics are good, you're fucking you, you work hard, you get the job done, you're doing good, we don't have a problem with you. But it's human resources that are the ones that that that are making us do this because they say your attendance showing up late every fucking day. You that can't be, you know. If you would have been off your fucking probation period was one year, they you could you you could have been you could miss all you want, you could show up late anytime you want, you could fucking miss a whole week and we can't get rid of you, you know? Because I would have been union, I would have been locked in.

Thee Gooch: 30:43

Do you think you can get that job back?

Remo: 30:46

No, they told me I could. They told me I could. They said, and I said, so how so how what's the time period until I could reapply again? They said you could reapply. That's not a problem. You could reapply anytime you want. Just make sure you're ready, make sure when you come back, you're you're you you're ready to fucking, you know.

Thee Gooch: 30:59

So yeah, when you're done, when you're done with when you're done with rehab, what's next for Remo?

Remo: 31:06

Fucking shit, not right now. So that's why I'm trying to get this shit fucking dismissed. I'm trying to get this this this um charge dismissed because if I have any charges, any fucking felonies, any kind of shit on my record, I can't apply for the city no more. I can't apply for a lot of jobs if I was to have a sales charge. A sales charge is more serious and obsession than any other fucking charge. You're being a fucking like sales is like like you're selling dope. That's not good. That's like a real bad fucking charge, you know? Right. So that's the that's why I'm trying to get knocked off. So this thing that I'm doing is called the rapid diversion program. After this program, after these 90 days, I'm still gonna have to do fucking um classes out there. I'm gonna have to do this shit for like about a year and a half. And and and and continue outs, you know, doing classes or doing whatever they ask of me in order to get these fucking charges dropped. So right now it's not official. I haven't been charged with nothing. I'm still it's still up in the air. I'm still going to court with it. I'm still fighting the case, not fighting the case. Did you hear me?

Thee Gooch: 31:59

Yeah.

Remo: 32:01

Okay. Uh uh I I I still pleaded the not guilty shit because you like I at first I just wanted to get a possession. I didn't want a sales charge. But they told me, no, you can you can get it dismissed if you do the whole program. And I was like, all right, fuck it, let's do it. Let's do it. Definitely do it because I like I said, I needed this shit. This was like a kick in the ass and a boost. Like I said, everything happens for a reason. So this happened for me to get this shit done and get it over with and shake the shit out of my system. And you know, it just fucked up that I had to go get a fucking sales charge. But prior to that sales charge, I was already telling myself I gotta fucking do something, man. I gotta do something because if not, I'm gonna end up back in prison or I'm gonna fucking get stuck on this shit and I'm not getting out of it, you know?

Thee Gooch: 32:37

Yeah, yeah.

Remo: 32:38

So I knew I had to get myself in a rehab, but it's just it's easier said than done when you're in addiction, man. It's like, you know.

Thee Gooch: 32:44

Oh yeah, for sure.

Remo: 32:45

But yeah. I'm gonna have to let you have to let you guys go right on a bit, but in a few minutes, because uh I gotta go downstairs and check in. You know, I'm in a rehab, I gotta follow these protocols and the rules and whatnot. And if I don't, then I get my privileges taken from me, which will be phone and whatnot. But yeah, I just you know what I mean. I just wanted to check back in with everybody, everybody knows. You know, I know it. I'm not I yeah, I'm embarrassed and I feel stupid. More more stupidity, bro. It's more that I feel fucking stupid that I fucking did what the fuck I did and I lost everything and I already had everything going good. You know what I mean?

Thee Gooch: 33:13

Yeah, yeah. But well, I mean you can't beat yourself, don't beat yourself up for it.

Remo: 33:19

I know, I know. I instead of beating myself up, I'm just gonna try to pick my shit up and and and and and and fix everything and make everything right, you know? Yeah, yeah. But I just want to fucking, you know what I mean? Let everybody know that this addiction is it's it's real. It's you know what I mean? There's no joke. It could really fuck you up. And and you even if you got, look, man, I was fucking clean for fucking nine years off the shit. Yeah, I will smoke weed, I will drink beer every now and then. But that's nothing. I was still able to manage it and fucking control it and do what I had to do and be responsible. But this fucking addiction, it's no joke, man. And there's a lot of people out there struggling with it, and especially now with this pedanol shit. It's even scarier now because I've had a lot of people, like just recently, I had a fucking good friend of mine smoke, he rest in peace. He was a good fucking dude, man. And he never fucked with pedinal, right? But somehow, somehow, that shit ended up getting in his vegetable. Nobody knows the story yet of what happened or how it happened, but he ended up overdosing on this shit, and and they found him too late to the point where it was he already lost too much oxygen to his brain. So there's no coming back to him. He was gonna beat a vegetable. They were showing his brain was showing no progress, no nothing, no, no recovery. So they pulled the hug on him, and it was a fucked up situation, you know. But I've had other trust with friends where they they they they try to do each other dirty out there. That's like the new shit now. Everyone's trying to fuck each other over by putting fetal on the dope and trying to like here, here you go here, go get high or sell the shit to someone. That's it. You know, it's it's some pussy shit, you know, some piece of shit shit. You know what I mean? But yeah, and then and that was a scary thing, you know. So that's why I wouldn't smoke with anybody just randomly or anybody that I wouldn't trust. Like, I had to make sure that my shit was good and it was like, you know, but still, point being is it's not even good no more, man. The dopes when I tested right here, I tested positive for MDMA. So I guess that's the shit that they're cutting it with. It's like ecstasy, ecstasy or some shit like that. The dope don't even get you high that much, but it's still like they're putting the shit in there to what get you stuck on it, to get you keep you addictive and keep you fucking wanting it more and more and more and more. You know, so it's no good no more, man. It's it's you know, maybe I needed to go through this. Who fucking knows? You know, I don't know, you know, I can't call it. Maybe this is all fucking for something, for a reason, for something to happen. Maybe I had to fucking go through this shit to meet the people that I gotta meet now, like, you know, be in this program, and you know, it's like I feel it. Like I was in this program 10 years ago. 10 years ago, yeah, I did it, I completed it, and I I I I still had a relapse 10 years ago, right, when I got out, but I went to prison and then I got out and and I stayed sober. But this time I'm taking the program seriously. I'm actually putting my feedback, I'm doing the work, I'm doing the paperwork, I'm reading the book of Narcotics Anonymous, I'm doing everything that I gotta do, and I'm looking forward to it. Like, you know, like like I don't cry about doing the chores here. They got they make you clean every day, they make you do this. Today they just give me the laundry job where I'm in charge of the fucking doing all the laundry, all the rags, all the bedding, all the linen, all the sheets, all that shit. So keep myself busy, keep myself distracted. I just see it like this. The same effort I fucking put into getting high and getting fucked up out there and and looking for the dope is the same effort I'm gonna do into this recovery and doing what I gotta do, no matter how fucking much much of a drag it is, how much of these motherfuckers are pieces of shit right here with the staff, how much they fucking bug, how much they treat us like fucking kids, how much they fucking, you know, I mean that they don't let us do shit. I can't even hold a fucking pack of cigarettes here because they fucking hold it for us at the front desk and they give us certain hours where we could where we could fucking smoke. Like right now they're just announcing the house is closed. I gotta go downstairs for roll call. You know what I mean? I gotta go turn in my phone. I can't have my phone on me. I gotta do I mean I gotta just and it's fucking stupid. That gets me mad, but at the same time, this is what I put myself to. Maybe this is what the fuck I need, you know. So but it is what it is.

Thee Gooch: 36:30

Hey, uh, before you go, that number, that number I text you on, that's that's my number.

Remo: 36:36

All right.

Thee Gooch: 36:37

It's an iPhone. I had to get an iPhone so I could keep track of the voice and shit. But uh that Samsung one still works.

Remo: 36:43

Yeah, and I want to tell you if I could put Destiny on that plan too, because by getting on that on that plan at yours, your your family plan, it knocked her out of mind. So I want to put her on it too, so we could, you know what I mean? And you could also have track of her just in case I lose my phone or whatever, whatnot, you know?

Thee Gooch: 36:57

Well is there room for anymore? On what the music?

Remo: 37:02

Yeah, yeah. But it's no no, it's it's like on the fine, it it's like the the the family thing. Like you could keep track of me. I see my location and all that shit. And by me joining you guys, it knocked me having her her location on mine because I I'm not now I'm not the the the the sharer. Now it's it's you, you're the organizer. Yeah, yeah. Hey, but look at look at my fucking hats. Look, there.

Thee Gooch: 37:31

I can't because we can't see you.

Remo: 37:34

Oh, you can't?

Speaker 5: 37:34

What the fuck?

Joe: 37:35

No, Remo.

Remo: 37:38

What about now? What about now?

Joe: 37:40

No, no, no.

Remo: 37:43

Let me try this a new time.

Joe: 37:56

Can you hear us? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Remo: 38:21

Okay.

Thee Gooch: 38:24

Oh, what is the what is the deal with the upside down Dodgers thing, dude?

Remo: 38:29

I think they ended up fucking up when they were printing them out in the fucking different languages. I got this one too. I got this one. This is the one I like the most. It's the wolf shoot.

Thee Gooch: 38:37

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe: 38:42

Oh yeah. Yeah. You find it in your own dog the hunt, right? Not anymore.

Thee Gooch: 38:48

No, I can't see you now.

Remo: 38:50

You can't see me no more.

Thee Gooch: 38:52

No, no.

Joe: 38:55

Yeah.

Remo: 38:55

Before you go. I gotta go, guys. Let's see when it's I'll check in with you guys next week on the intro. So it was good hearing from you guys. Good getting back. And anybody needs help with the diction or anything like that, you can reach out to Joe, and I can help you guys out or lead you in the right direction where to fucking sign up and get checked in and whatnot.

Thee Gooch: 39:14

Alright, bro. Take it easy, all right? Hit me up later.

Remo: 39:18

All right. All right. All right, all right, bro. Love you. I love you. Take care. There we go. There is Remo, everybody. There he goes. I get out of you, kid. All right, Remo. Glad you're back, Remo.

Joe: 39:33

That was Remo, our brother. Our baby brother. Our baby brother. Here we go. And going through some shit that everybody does every day. But that's how it is. That's life, and he's finding those demons. So um yeah, glad he's back, though. Glad he's back, right?

Thee Gooch: 39:53

Oh yeah, all right.

Joe: 39:57

Yeah, sorry, sorry for the technical difficulties on the audio, everybody. Uh Remo's in rehab, and he's just talking into the regular phone. Is it an iPhone boot? Does he have an iPhone?

Thee Gooch: 40:09

I think so. I think so. Okay. Not alright. Where are we at? I have a major announcement. Where are we at? Do we have any videos we needed to share you want to talk about or anything before we get going?

Joe: 40:22

Well the one the movie I was watching right now is pretty good. Uh it's uh interesting. It's about UFOs and 80s and shit like that. And I I mean I think I have seen it before, but I don't you know I just like uh it looked familiar, but uh I was watching it today. It was pretty good. And uh the movie is called um the one with TV. I mean, my bad. No one will save you. You know and I got the picture right here. No audio, just a picture of the the movie that I was watching. That's this one right here. It looks kind of kind of creepy, huh? What's the name of it? It's called Where's Wait. Oh, I got it right here. No one will save you. That's the name of the. Is that on Netflix or a movie? It's on Hulu right now.

Thee Gooch: 41:07

I don't have Hulu.

Joe: 41:09

You don't have Hulu? That's right. It's a pretty good movie, dude. I was just watching it right now before we started the show. And I still haven't finished it. I'm still I have it paused right now so I can watch it after when we're done. So it's a pretty good movie. Uh right. It's on Hulu right now. You can watch it, and no one will save you, everybody. No, it's a pretty good movie. I like it. So yeah, I was it's pretty good, dude. Uh I enjoyed it and it looked it's a little kind of creepy, you know, little hazard moments and shit like that. Cause just imagine, because I was watching in the dark, dude, like uh no, yeah. You know, it was kind of creepy.

Thee Gooch: 41:46

Just imagine, huh? Did you get the were you like spooked?

Joe: 41:52

Nah, not really, but it it was kind of creepy. You know, it was there. But I mean, you think about it, you're asleep in the dark in a midnight hour and shit, like around two in the morning, maybe around there. Uh and you wake up and there's an alien in your bed, in your fucking corner bed and shit looking at you. Just imagine that shit.

Thee Gooch: 42:11

Imagine the alien have his have his hand on your PP.

Joe: 42:16

Fucking uh touching me and shit.

Thee Gooch: 42:20

Lucky alien.

Joe: 42:22

But uh yeah, but uh that was about it. That's what I did today, watching the the movie right there in Hulu. I just barely activated Hulu too. Actually, I activated it because I'm about to.

Thee Gooch: 42:32

I'll check out Amazon Prime.

Joe: 42:34

Oh, you're on Prime?

Thee Gooch: 42:35

I'll I'll check it out. I'm sure they have it on there.

Joe: 42:38

Oh, you probably have to rent it, bro. Probably.

Thee Gooch: 42:39

Yeah, looking more shit.

Joe: 42:41

Because uh like I have uh the the cable provider. Oh, here's Remo. He's back. Oh, he's back, yeah. Yeah what's up, Remo? You're back? I don't gotta my phone yet.

Remo: 42:56

Yeah, I don't gotta turn it in yet. I still I still not used to the whole but you guys want to take a look at the whole the whole setup?

Joe: 43:07

Yeah, give us a tour. Hey, I was gonna ask you, how come you don't go to TikTok and do shit like that, dude? You there's a lot of people that do that.

Remo: 43:18

I would do it on a personal tip or a different way, like you know, like like out of here, I want to look into becoming a drug counselor or like that field.

Joe: 43:27

You so you you won't do that? I mean, like to report to us and shit like that. Like the way you're doing right now, you could do that to us, you know, for us, you know? For the show. You know? Pretty cool. Hey, do they have games like that? Like arcades? No, but um, they have like game night.

Remo: 43:53

Today's game night, you get to play like different types of games, like board games, gang and shit like that. This is a store right here, like what they got.

Thee Gooch: 44:01

Do they have cigarettes in there? Is it just a bunch of dudes?

Remo: 44:11

No, it's uh it's uh it's actually like I mean it it's c crazy, but it's funny, but it's uh uh a fucking uh whatchamacallit? It's uh LGT LGBTQ like facility. So the half of the dudes here are fucking two dudes and fucking uh the other half are just regular regular dudes and there's like like there's like six girls here. But this is this is I'm in the heart of fucking AK Street neighborhood right here. Oh parking lot that section over there for the smoking section. Oh no. So it's cool, you know what I mean? It's nothing, you know? It's not like I'm fucking in a in a flux up. Like people think rehabs like so fucked up. Nah, hell no, it's pretty cool, it's slick, it's smooth.

Thee Gooch: 44:51

Has Destiny come and visit you?

Remo: 44:53

No, her uncle's supposed to bring her, but uh, I don't know when he has free time. I'm talking about Joe though. But but they're on the list, they're already, they're already all approved to come and see me. See this section.

Joe: 45:07

But I text her, dude, she didn't respond. The little shit.

Remo: 45:11

Oh, she has a different number. You don't have her new number?

Joe: 45:14

Nah. I got I text her in uh show you what I'm in charge of now, watch. I text her in Instagram and she doesn't respond.

Remo: 45:22

Oh, the little shit. I think she probably has a different page. I don't think she has the same one.

Joe: 45:25

Oh shit. Uh oh.

Remo: 45:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's gotta send you her her her wish list too for Christmas.

Joe: 45:33

Oh, I know, yeah. Yeah, the the family wander down here over here too.

Remo: 45:38

I know.

Joe: 45:41

Oh shit.

Remo: 45:43

I don't do Christmas. Downstairs. That's the downstairs? You know this big building used to be owned by Al Capone? Oh no, was it? Hey, your service is sketchy right now, bro. That's the laundry man. Hey, but is this building used to be owned by Al Capone? That's nice. Can you guys hear me? Yeah, I'm gonna hear you like somewhere in the gym. That's fucking can you hear me?

Joe: 46:20

Yeah, yeah, we just we can't see you now.

Remo: 46:23

I know no, you can't see the screen. You can't see the screen? No. Can you see now? No, no, can you see? Nothing. Oh my god, hold on. Let me let me get out of it back in then. Yeah.

Joe: 46:45

Yeah, I was telling I was thinking having Reimo do what like he's doing right now. Go to the streets with TikTok, go report and shit like that to us, you know, things like that. Like uh stuttering John, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? But he's getting paid for it with TikTok, you know, and he could report to us, you know.

Thee Gooch: 47:03

Yeah, that's a good idea, Joseph. Talk to him more about it.

Joe: 47:07

Yeah, I mean, he could report to us, and he's getting paid on TikTok, and things like that. What do we got? What do we got on yeah. Uh yeah, yeah.

Remo: 47:17

Can you hear me? Yes. Can you see me? Yes. The building looks like that. That's pretty. It used to be it used to be a hotel back in the days. Back in the days, back, back, back, way back.

Thee Gooch: 47:32

Mm-hmm. Oh, we lost them again.

Joe: 47:35

I mean, it's it doesn't look that bad, you know, like fucking like a run-down, you know, facility and shit, you know. I know, right?

Remo: 47:45

Can can you guys see me?

Thee Gooch: 47:47

Yeah.

Remo: 47:48

Okay. Well, this building used to be owned by a Capone. The big the mobster used to be like a mobster building. It was a hotel. He used to own it.

Thee Gooch: 47:55

Oh, Capone. is a bitch in the day, huh?

Remo: 47:57

Yeah, and then and then after he sold it, then some box. I don't know, sounds like that has history to it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's pretty bad as it's like an old school building. Pretty cool. Jeez. But it's better. I got my mind right now. Um, you know what I mean? I'm fucking out of the fog, out of the fucking bullshit. Yeah.

Joe: 48:22

It looks pretty good though. It doesn't look too run run down and shit.

Remo: 48:26

No, it's not. It doesn't. They actually upgraded it since I've been here the last time 10 years ago.

Joe: 48:30

Right, right.

Remo: 48:31

Yeah, it's a lot of the fucking food's great. I'm gaining weight again. They fucking feed us like right now, it's gonna be dinner time right now, like at 4 45. At 5 o'clock. Huh?

Joe: 48:41

Like last year, dude, when you when you came last Christmas, like, what the fuck? What happened to you?

Remo: 48:46

No, I know, and then I know I was being an asshole being idiot, and I just didn't want to talk about it right there. You know what I mean? Because I was gonna go to potion, I was gonna get out fucking, you know, like my law very went so like I just you know. Uh-huh. I know, and I probably about that. I I I know I was in the wrong thing, but you know, in the addiction, I just I just I I'm not in the right state of mind, you know. That's why.

Joe: 49:05

Yeah.

Remo: 49:06

I apologize. Yeah, we're good when you too.

Joe: 49:12

Yeah. Um thinking remote. I think I think even the Gooch thinks it's a good idea. You know, the what? Tell him Gooch. Maybe you can't.

Thee Gooch: 49:23

I didn't even understand what you're I didn't even understand what you were saying.

Joe: 49:27

Oh my god. Oh, here we go. I just said yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm always the the the loser one.

Thee Gooch: 49:35

I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, good idea. Tell him. About reporting what's going on in Los Angeles and report it like on the show and shit, or send videos like like a reporter.

Remo: 49:49

Well, right now, right now, I I don't get no no access to the outside right now. Right now I'm still on uh 30-day restriction. Like in 30 days, I'll be able to have my fucking uh eight-hour passes. I don't even get the weekend pass, they just let me out for eight hours.

Thee Gooch: 50:02

Well, I'll come out there as soon as possible, bro. But right now it's uh the fucking the whole fucking country's snowing and shit.

Remo: 50:09

Yeah, yeah. And then just yesterday I I was able, they gave me a pass to go to a uh uh CMA meeting, Crystal Myth Anonymous meeting, like outside in the streets out that. Oh no shit. Ah, so I'm burning like I'm burning, I've only been here 15 fucking days, you know what I mean? It seems and I got I got pretty much two months and a half left to go. Yeah. Okay. But yeah. This is good. You know what I mean? I got good support, you know what I mean? Good program. I'm gonna show you guys something right now. I'm gonna show you guys something. Oh shit, I'm not even supposed to have a soda in here. There's no soda in the bar room because they just supposed to redid the carpet. Yeah, they just had a big old Christmas dinner here, like Wednesday.

Thee Gooch: 50:50

Oh Wednesday, really?

Remo: 50:53

Yeah, my girlfriend came out, he came out and came and saving everything. It was good. Oh yeah, good food, the fucking turkey, stuffing, all the food was good. Everybody's getting uh roll cough, everyone's getting everybody's getting a roll cough? Yeah. And they do that just to make sure everyone's still uh here, make sure because there's been times where people overdose upstairs and they don't know they're up there overdosed and they end up doing shit. This is my my little mamada that I did. What is that?

Thee Gooch: 51:26

Oh shit, I see it, I see it.

Remo: 51:30

Like a little kid doing ceramic toys.

Thee Gooch: 51:33

I remember doing that shit when I used to go to the mental institutions.

Remo: 51:37

But it was actually it was actually fucking therapeutic. It was good. It was you know what I mean?

Joe: 51:43

Well, it's like uh yeah, it's just like very busy.

Remo: 51:49

This is the ballroom, that's why it's so big and like that, like uh open. There's a stage back there and everything.

Thee Gooch: 51:55

You guys entertain each other and shit?

Remo: 51:58

Huh?

Thee Gooch: 51:59

Do you guys entertain your each other with the stage?

Remo: 52:03

Well, sometimes before they used to be like that, but I don't know, it just depends on the events they want to have here or what they want to do. Like things, but it's just it's for our own good. It's not that they're being dicks just because they want to be dicks. No, it's because just to keep us in order, show us, you know, how to be. One thing about being out on the streets, not me, because I always have, you know, common sense, like, you know, but a lot of people that get out on the streets, man, they they forget how to how to live, how to fucking do things a certain way, how to fucking be clean, how to fucking be, you know, neat and decent. You know, I I I call I call them like they turn into Neanderthals again. They forget how to fucking drunk, do things the right way shit.

Thee Gooch: 52:42

Well Remo I'm glad you're in there. I'm glad I know where you're at.

Joe: 52:48

Right.

Thee Gooch: 52:52

Yeah. Just just stop being an ass already, right?

Remo: 52:56

I know. I try hard though. That's one thing it's harder to get to to stop, you know. But he is Remo. I mean Well, yeah. Uh but I'm good now. I'm clean, I'm sober. I I don't got the urge. Yeah, and that's the only thing about me is I don't get the urge, I don't get the cravings, I don't get the shit. But like, oh, I want to go get high, I wanna get high. Nah, fuck that.

Thee Gooch: 53:17

This isn't like anything else, dude. Like, I didn't want to drink last night, bro. I was like, fuck, I didn't want to drink. But then I found out Jake Paul was on the fight. Yeah.

Remo: 53:25

Oh, how'd that go?

Thee Gooch: 53:27

Oh, he got knocked out.

Remo: 53:28

He was a what about Andrew Tate? When is he fighting?

Thee Gooch: 53:35

Andrew Tate? I don't know, but I I keep seeing seeing him promoted, but I don't know when the fight is. But Jake Paul got his jaw broken, dude, last night.

Joe: 53:43

Two places on.

Thee Gooch: 53:44

That's what I have two places. He broke his jaw, dude.

Remo: 53:48

That's the one I want to watch. Jake Paul fight that one fool. He's supposed to fight, eh?

Thee Gooch: 53:52

Yeah, Joshua Anthony?

Remo: 53:54

Andrew, Andrew Tate. I want to see Andrew Tate fight that one.

Thee Gooch: 53:57

Yeah. That'd be a good one.

Remo: 53:59

Yeah, because I like how he's not being disrespectful. He doesn't talk shit. He just says, you know, I'm just gonna do what I gotta do. You know what I mean?

Thee Gooch: 54:06

Yeah, yeah.

Joe: 54:07

The reason why Jake Paul got fucking tired is because he's been fucking going around in circles, dude. Like, yeah, he was being a clown. Yeah.

Remo: 54:14

But one thing I am I am like, you know, really heavy on right now is the cigarettes. Like yesterday, uh Junior sent me some money. I went and bought about like fucking four packs of cigarettes or shit.

Thee Gooch: 54:24

Oh no shit. What are they? Fucking three dollars a pack of set?

Remo: 54:27

No, these these I got uh they took us because I can't just go and buy cigarettes. They I gotta wait for them to take me to the shop, you know. So they took the whole bunch they have for us because when they take us places, there's one.

Joe: 54:37

Oh, okay.

Remo: 54:38

There, so they they stack us up in the van and they when we want a smoke shop run, and whoever wants to go buy cigars can sign up and we go. So I bought the uh but they're not even they're not bad at all. They're pretty good. They're called LDs, they're fucking six dollar tax. Okay. But they're pretty good. Uh I think me a vape.

Joe: 54:59

You're gonna buy a vape? I need another one. I have one right here, dude. I don't even use it.

Remo: 55:05

No. Well, when you come visit me, bring it to me, but don't let them know you bring it to me because they they want to have it behind the desk and I and I need one just to keep on me here, you know.

Joe: 55:12

How's the parking there?

Remo: 55:13

The parking's good. Like, dick. You don't see the parking lot, mamon?

Joe: 55:17

No shit off.

Remo: 55:21

I thought I was just walking around and sh no the parking lot, Mamon, is yeah, it's fucking plenty of parking. There's no excuse. No fucking excuse.

Joe: 55:30

Yeah. I'll see if I uh if see if if I don't work tomorrow, I'll see if I go with her over there, dude. Tomorrow.

Remo: 55:34

Yes, see, you're on the list. My girlfriend's on the list, Junior's on the list. Are you guys on the list? You guys can come in between.

Joe: 55:43

Where'd I go into the the like the front door or something?

Remo: 55:45

Or what let me know when you're coming. I'll have my phone on me. Call me, let me know you're coming. I get my phone at one. Or at 12, I get my phone at 12 or at one. Call me, let me know, and you can come in through the gate. When you get to the gate, you press the little com and you tell them I'm here to visit and say who you're here to visit, and they'll open the gate and you come in.

David: 56:01

Hey, Oscar. What's up?

Remo: 56:05

Hey, what's up, little dude? I mean, big dude, fuck. You're fucking taller than me now, fucker. Hey. Oh yeah. I gotta go, I gotta go. I gotta do roll car right now.

Joe: 56:16

Oh, they gotta do roll c roll car?

Remo: 56:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fucking other staff. Other staff are fucking two-doo-doos too and shit.

Joe: 56:24

Yeah, yeah.

Remo: 56:25

That's all right. I ain't tripping on that. I'm here for my recovery now for that. But I'm gonna let you guys go then, alright?

Joe: 56:32

Alright, alright, Remo. Alright, see ya. Talk to you guys later. Okay, let's go.

David: 56:39

All right, take care, bro. What's up, Uncle Joe?

Joe: 56:45

Hey, David, how you been?

Speaker: 56:47

All right.

David: 56:47

I'm doing good. All right, Remo. Thank you.

Remo: 56:50

I gotta go.

Joe and David: 56:51

All right. There's Remo, everybody. That's uh next time in the next show. What's up? What's up, David? How you been? Oh, I've been I've been doing good. How have you been? Yeah, I see you playing basketball, so I couldn't even tell because everyone looked all tall, so I couldn't know which one was you. You know what I'm saying?

David: 57:10

Well, I'm usually like the taller one out there.

Joe: 57:13

Yeah, I I mean I I couldn't know. And then your mom replied, she says the brown one on Facebook.

David: 57:22

Yeah. I'm on Facebook.

Joe: 57:23

Where you been, dude?

David: 57:25

I've been I've been just chilling, bro. Chilling, chilling. I just got back from a tournament.

Joe: 57:30

Oh, really? Three hours away. You have that hard playing basketball, huh?

David: 57:36

That what?

Joe: 57:37

You have the hard playing basketball. You like you're just active on the basketball thing, huh? You're taking it seriously. Are you going pro?

David: 57:47

Do I think I'm going pro? Yeah. Maybe. We'll see in like two years.

Joe: 57:55

In two years?

Thee Gooch: 57:56

We'll see in two years, my young G.

Joe: 58:00

Your young Gene?

David: 58:03

Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you go, though.

Thee Gooch: 58:06

Okay.

Thee Gooch and David: 58:07

Hey bye. See ya. All right, David to you. Hey, you know, do it good, man.

Thee Gooch: 58:14

Thanks for coming home safe. Hello? Are you there? I'm right here. I'm here. All right. For now, my announcement.

Joe: 58:24

You ready for my mouse next year, next year, son, dude?

Thee Gooch: 58:26

Oh, I know, dude. Yeah, you're a tiny guy. A little midget. All right, so while everybody's focusing on Donald Trump and what a fucked up job he's doing and how fucking racist Donald Trump is, and all this shit in California, right?

Joe: 58:47

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3: 58:48

Well, I'm here to say in California, California, you in danger, girl.

Joe: 58:55

No shit.

Thee Gooch: 58:56

Yeah. Come summer of 2026, uh-huh. California, the California is expected to pay close to, if not more than, $10 a gallon of gas.

Joe: 59:11

Oh shit.

Thee Gooch: 59:12

And that's gonna be your average. That's gonna always stick to it.

Joe: 59:15

No way.

Thee Gooch: 59:17

And I'll tell you why, because nobody's talking about it. Everybody wants to, you know, like I said, everybody wants to protest, everybody wants to degrade the country and how fucking stupid Republicans are and how stupid conservatives are. Meanwhile, what's going on underneath their nose that their governor, Gavin Newsom, wants nothing to do with gasoline.

Joe: 59:40

No shit.

Thee Gooch: 59:41

Three oil, three major oil refineries in California. One already closed its doors and went to Texas.

Joe: 59:50

Uh-huh.

Thee Gooch: 59:51

And that they pump out, they refine gas close to 200,000 gallons. I'm sorry, thousand barrels a day for California. So that's gone.

Joe: 1:00:03

No way.

Thee Gooch: 1:00:03

Well, we have a few more days of uh December, right? So at the end of December, which would be the end of this year, Phillip, Phillips 66. Uh, that's another oil refinery in Los Angeles. It's closing its doors at the end of the year. So that's another 200,000 barrels or gallons of gas that they refine for the citizens of California. Okay, so expect the gas to jump a little bit more at the end of the month, right? At the beginning of uh 2026. And then you have Valero, another Los Angeles based oil refinery for gasoline that produced close to 300,000 gallons of gas for Los Angeles and California. So that they're they're gonna pack up and leave California. California for Texas in April of 2026.

Joe: 1:00:56

Wow.

Thee Gooch: 1:00:56

So by then, by then, your California is going to spend at least, if not better, than $10 a gallon.

Joe: 1:01:04

Fuck that, dude.

Thee Gooch: 1:01:06

And a lot of people are so dumb that they're going to say, well, we can get, you know, oil from Texas. I mean, gas from Texas, no, they can't. Because those refineries that left, they they they produce a special blend of gasoline that only these dirty globalist environmentalists that put into policies with these Democrats that they they they only use special kind of gasoline for cleaner air.

Joe: 1:01:38

Wow.

Thee Gooch: 1:01:38

So if they want that special blend of gasoline, they have to get it from South Korea. South Korea does that same blend of gasoline that California uses. But in order for them to ship that tankers over, and it's only by boat, right? Cargo boats.

Joe: 1:01:55

Right, right.

Thee Gooch: 1:01:56

It takes them four weeks to get to California. And the states that are gonna be impacted by all of this, Joel, is uh Nevada and Arizona.

Joe: 1:02:09

Arizona too in Nevada.

Thee Gooch: 1:02:13

Um Chevron is going belly up. They're moving out. Chevron's another station that's gonna be moving out. The CEO of Chevron sent a message to Gavin Newsom: hey, we have an announcement. We're gonna be, if you wanna, I want to let you know first before you hear it. You know, the announcement. And then Gavin Newsom wanted nothing to do with him.

Joe: 1:02:33

Oh shit. And this is this is his fault?

Thee Gooch: 1:02:39

It's all this is all this is all his dirty policies about the global environmentalists shit. Uh-huh. It's all because of the environment. He expects that California is gonna be electric vehicles, I believe 2030 or 2032. He wants all of they want they set policies up to where all the vehicles are gonna be electric.

Sound Effect: 1:03:01

Oh my gosh.

Thee Gooch: 1:03:02

Which is and you guys know, as Californians know, you can't, you guys can't, California can't handle that power grid.

Joe: 1:03:09

Yeah, yeah.

Thee Gooch: 1:03:09

You run your fucking ACs, you know, the when it's hot, everybody's running their AC at the same time. What happens? The fucking power shuts off.

Joe: 1:03:17

Yeah.

Thee Gooch: 1:03:18

The power grid. You know, and nobody's talking about this. Nobody's talking about the oil refineries leaving California. Valero, Valero paid California one billion dollars because they're tired of doing business with these take a billion dollar cost uh cut from their company and move to Texas.

Joe: 1:03:44

Jeez.

Thee Gooch: 1:03:45

Unbelievable. So expect us to pay a lot of money for gas, dude, next year. Because it's gonna happen. It's not a prediction, it's it's it's gonna happen.

Joe: 1:03:55

And and this is this this is what I'm assuming that all everybody's gonna blame Trump for this this year.

Thee Gooch: 1:04:02

Everybody's blaming Trump. Everybody, these people are gonna blame Trump, and that's what I'm telling you. Everybody's so distracted what the media tells them that Donald Trump's racist, Donald Trump's this, Donald Trump's dirty this. Dude, I went to Casper, Wyoming, two weekends ago with the boys or on my boys' uh basketball tournament. You know how much the gallant the gas was there?

Joe: 1:04:25

Yeah, like two dollars or something, right?

Thee Gooch: 1:04:27

Two dollars, dude. Yeah. Two dollars. And then you see posts, you know, oh, Donald Trump said when he's elected he can bring down all of those posts are from blue states like California, Washington, uh-huh, and and Oregon that are paying so much money on gas because they think that global warming is a real thing. And it's not.

Joe: 1:04:50

And I noticed that all the red states are their gases like low, right? Yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:04:54

Texas is like $225.

Thee Gooch: 1:04:55

Yeah. How much are you guys paying right now? Close to $5?

Joe: 1:04:59

We're like $425 right now. You know?

Thee Gooch: 1:05:03

Well, expect to by by January 1rd, they'd expect to pay more.

Joe: 1:05:08

All the blue states, right?

Thee Gooch: 1:05:09

All the blue states.

Joe: 1:05:13

And you know that those tax cuts? All the Democrats don't want that shit too, huh? They want to block it.

Thee Gooch: 1:05:19

Yeah, the no tax, no tax on tips. Yeah, they're blocking that from their state. Yeah. Yeah. They don't give a fuck about citizens, dude. They don't care.

Joe: 1:05:27

It's because they want the money for themselves. The payer the taxpayers are paying the Democrats on their pockets, right? Yep. And the people don't believe that shit. They don't see it. They're blind. All the liberals, you know?

Thee Gooch: 1:05:41

Yeah. So expect to pay more on gas.

Joe: 1:05:44

Because you know what that shit happens, dude? Fuck.

Thee Gooch: 1:05:47

The oil refineries are out. The last one's leaving, one of them's leaving. There's three of them. So Valero's leaving April 2026.

Joe: 1:05:54

Oh shit.

Thee Gooch: 1:05:55

And that's another 300,000 barrels of fucking gas that they produce.

Joe: 1:06:02

For California. The reason why the gas will go up is because uh they're leaving. And why is the reason why they're gonna it's rising up the $10?

Thee Gooch: 1:06:11

Because they don't they don't have any, they don't have very many oil refineries in California anymore.

Joe: 1:06:16

Okay.

Thee Gooch: 1:06:17

Three major ones already leaving or left.

Joe: 1:06:20

Okay.

Thee Gooch: 1:06:21

And it's a special kind of gas. So now shit rolls downhill, right? So if there's no no more refineries making gas for California, it rolls down the hill. Now, how are you gonna get jet fuel? Yeah, how are you gonna get fuel to get your delivered your package delivered, your mail delivered, your delivering services, Uber, all this shit's gonna go up, dude?

Joe: 1:06:43

So the moral of the story is that the governor wants to fucking make the cars electric.

Thee Gooch: 1:06:49

All the all the vehicles are gonna be electric by I think uh 2032 or 2030, one of them, one of them here soon.

Joe: 1:06:58

I just imagine.

Thee Gooch: 1:07:00

And they don't give a fuck. Yeah, and they don't give a fuck.

Joe: 1:07:04

Yeah. They want us the American citizens to suffer, huh?

Thee Gooch: 1:07:08

Yeah. If you ask me, I would drive a fucking gas car any day of the year.

Joe: 1:07:14

Yeah.

Thee Gooch: 1:07:15

Because we already seen that electric vehicles don't work like in the wintertime. So that was my announcement. Good luck, California. You guys are gonna need it. And it sucks. Because I wanted to go to California. I'm not gonna spend ten dollars a gallon.

Joe: 1:07:37

Ten dollars, imagine dude. Fuck. Imagine I can't even pay fucking four or well, five dollars. You know?

Thee Gooch: 1:07:45

Yeah, dude. It sucks. It's a shitty deal.

Joe: 1:07:48

Yeah.

Thee Gooch: 1:07:49

And it's all because of their policies. Environmentalist policies, dude. The Democrats are all about that shit.

Joe: 1:07:56

Yeah.

Thee Gooch: 1:07:57

You know? It's not gonna work. California is gonna struggle next year with this gas because there's gonna be a lot of gas shortage shortages. And where are they gonna get gas from?

Joe: 1:08:08

That's crazy.

Thee Gooch: 1:08:10

You know? Unbelievable. I'm in I'm in Wyoming, so I'm just gonna mind my business.

Joe: 1:08:17

Lucky, man. It is what it is. And do you have anything else to give us?

Thee Gooch: 1:08:29

That's all my announcement. That's all I had. That was your announcement. That was it. There you go. California, you endangered, girl.

Joe: 1:08:36

God, you're good on the news, gooch. You're good on the news.

Thee Gooch: 1:08:41

You know, it was it's a lot deeper than that. You know, I was supposed to write all this shit up, you know, but I just didn't have time. I woke up hungover and I slept most of the day.

Joe: 1:08:50

Right.

Thee Gooch: 1:08:51

But it goes a lot deeper than that. The companies are refining companies, like like Shell, you know, Shell gas stations. They've been there, they've been in Los Angeles over a hundred years. They packed up and they left for Texas, dude. You know, hundreds and hundreds of jobs, hundreds and hundreds of jobs lost. But nobody talks about it because they're too busy condemning Trump for whatever reason.

Joe: 1:09:25

That's probably the distraction of what they're doing, right? Because so we don't have to hear about that shit.

Thee Gooch: 1:09:30

Yeah. That's all it is, is just right, and they fall for it. Like idiots. They fall for it. We have messages, Phil. What are the messages? 17 messages. Bowser's. I would look, but I don't have access to that.

Joe: 1:09:43

This is all the messages right here. It's very small. Yeah, I know. I don't know what's the deal. They make it too small. They just should make it all larger. Okay, cool. How about like that? Anything important? Nah. So much better than this kick.com. It's like uh how you call it? Promotion.

Thee Gooch: 1:10:20

Yeah. Are we here?

Joe: 1:10:26

Yeah, we're here, Gooch. You know. I just want to let everybody know. Sorry for the technical difficulties and all that stuff. And Remo's giving us feedback. Well, he's as been, everyone. Remo, as you know, is he's one of our co-hosts too on this show. Uh we want to thank him for him for showing up, letting him know, letting us know he's doing good. Thank you, bro. Remo. Any last words for you, Gucci?

Thee Gooch: 1:10:54

Yeah, if you guys don't drink and drive.

Joe: 1:10:58

Do not drink and drive, everybody. And um, I just want to wish everybody um a Merry Christmas, happy holidays, and all everybody. Um from the talker from the talkers podcast, unscripted. And um next, I think maybe next week I have I'm gonna have a QR code. You could aim the you get your camera, aim it to the QR code, and you could uh join us live. If you guys want to speak to us and talk shit to us or anything like that. What do you think, Gucci?

Thee Gooch: 1:11:31

Yeah, that's uh that's a bad, that's not a bad idea.

Joe: 1:11:34

So I already have that set up, so uh maybe next week we could do that. You know, you guys want to hop in for 15 minutes and then talk to us or anything like that. And um, I want to thank all the listeners out there, everybody. Um, for tuning in, downloading our podcast, and um, we really appreciate it. We appreciate it a lot. Thank you very much. My name is Joe and Remo and the Gucci, everybody. I want to thank Remo. Thank you so much, bro. Do good, and um, happy, happy, um, Merry Christmas. Uh, what am I saying? Happy. Well, Merry Christmas, everybody, happy holidays, dry stays, be uh vigilant on your surroundings, everybody. And um, all I can say is um uh stay uh take care. And this is brought to you by Suavecito, everybody. Go buy Suavectito right now in your nearest store, or you're gonna go to www.suavecito.com everybody. And um all I can say is um, I think that's a good thing.