Fake Superman Fans

Superman has landed, and the reactions are anything but unified. In this passionate, unfiltered episode, Joe flies solo to deliver his unvarnished take on James Gunn's new Superman film and the surprisingly divisive fan response it's generating.

Cutting through the noise of social media criticism, Joe makes a compelling case that much of the backlash comes not from the film's actual content, but from certain fans' inability to let go of past iterations. Drawing parallels between accepting change in superhero franchises and dealing with loss in real life, he explores how our relationship with fictional characters often reveals deeper psychological patterns.

The episode takes fascinating detours into fan psychology, examining how yesterday's critics of Zach Snyder have transformed into his most vocal defenders, and how social media amplifies performative disappointment. Joe shares memorable anecdotes from his theater experience and dissects the strange phenomenon of fans who build up massive expectations only to dramatically reject the final product.

What emerges is more than just a movie review—it's a thoughtful meditation on fandom culture, nostalgia, and the surprising difficulty many have with embracing new interpretations of beloved characters. Whether you're excited about the new Superman or skeptical about its direction, this episode offers a refreshingly honest perspective that challenges listeners to examine their own relationship with change, both in entertainment and beyond.

Ready to dive into this super-sized conversation about the Man of Steel? Give this episode a listen, and don't forget to share your own thoughts about the new Superman film!

Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome to the Talkers Podcast
• 5:12 New Superman Movie Review
• 10:48 Addressing Fan Criticism
• 18:28 Moving On From the Snyder Era
• 31:20 Learning to Accept Change
• 48:42 Hypocritical Fans and Social Media
• 59:15 Why Superman Still Matters
• 1:16:24 Closing Thoughts and Wrap-Up

Transcript

Joe: 1:16

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Joe: 2:15

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Joe: 2:54

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Joe: 4:34

Ok, now to the show, everybody. Well, you know, on Saturday, last Saturday, on July 11th no, july 12th, my bad, okay. Well, the new Superman just came on July 11th. Right, yeah, it did. July 11th, 2025, superman. And I went after work, straight after work, I zoomed it and I saw it. Finally it arrived, and I saw it on Saturday, july 12th.

Joe: 5:04

Everybody, this movie was so fucking awesome, everybody. Let me tell you one thing Do not let people convince you that it sucked. It didn't. It was amazing. It's not even woke like people were just was amazing. It's not even woke, like people were just talking about. It's not even woke.

Joe: 5:20

Everybody. I mean, what are these people are talking about? You know, these are people that want to sabotage movies. I don't know, they're not even Superman fans. And social media too, when you go to Facebook and they're all bashing the movie because they're like hurt or something like that, and they're like crying because I mean, it's not a record breaker, but it made money. It hit the box office for three, for four days, you know, and they're all like ragging about oh, it's not like man of Steel and this and that, like Zack Snyder, and you know what you should love the movie the way it is. Man, if you're a Superman fan, it wouldn't bother you. You'll watch it anyway. I still watched it. You know what I'm saying. And I'm a huge Superman fan. Damn it. I still like Superman 4, even though Christopher Reeve didn't approve that movie, you know he said he didn't like it. You know what I'm saying.

Joe: 6:17

And it was. I mean, it was a fantastic movie. Okay, I give it eight out of nine. Okay, or eight out of ten. I mean my bad, but to me it was, it was, it was awesome. It was awesome. I like the flying scene, the flying sequences and all that stuff, the flying scenes. You know the fighting and all that shit. You know it was more. It was more terrific. Okay, all right, mr Terrific was there Lois Lane, lex Luthor, guy Gardner, the Green Lantern, hawkgirl and Jimmy Olsen, and you know they did great. You know they did great. They put their part inside the movie and it was awesome. You know, I mean even Supergirl came out Spoiler alert. Even Supergirl came in to the scene. But it was like in the last ending of the movie. Okay, spoiler alert. Okay, my bad, but I'm a huge Superman fan.

Joe: 7:21

No one in the fucking social media is not going to change my mind. You're saying it sucks and all that stuff. I mean, come on, get real guys. Stop bashing the movie. That's all. You guys are good for, just bashing movies. You're not even Superman fans. You know every single one of you. I go to your profiles and I check. Most of you guys are just like bots, like you know. You guys are hiding your profile. You don't want nobody to know what you are about, what you're all about. I mean, you know you don't want them to figure you out. That's why I already figured you guys out already. You guys are just fucking hating and just jealous. You know you're all into directors and filming and arts and all that stuff. Comments, it's only comments and I mean it's noticeable that you guys are not fans.

Joe: 8:25

Some of you out there are like Dragon Ball fans, dragon Ball Z fans or something like that. I'm not making fun of them, but try to make a Dragon Ball Z movie and we see how that shit turns out. Because, last thing, I know they made one. It fucking sucks. From what I heard, if they ever make a fucking Dragon Ball Z, it won't stand a chance on theaters. Everybody, it has to be a good, good ass director To make a Dragon Ball Z movie. You know what I'm saying. Try to do. You know what I'm saying. Try to do that. You know.

Joe: 9:00

And most of the whole story from Dragon Ball Z, it's a copyright from Superman. You know, even the creator said it himself. He got influenced by Superman. You know the storyline of Superman. But, like, like I said again, the movie was terrific, all right, and um, you guys got to learn how to, um, to let go things. You know got to embrace the future. You know, forget the past. James Gunn, I mean James Gunn, he nailed it and I knew he would and I knew he would. You know, and, yeah, I knew he would.

Joe: 9:54

But you guys are all sore. You guys are all sore milk. You're crying over sore, I don't know. But you guys are all sore. You guys are all sore milk. You're crying over sore, I don't know. You guys knew you cried me, like you know.

Joe: 10:03

I don't know what to say Sometimes. I mean you guys just got to let go. I mean Zack Snyder's not coming back, not even Henry Caldwell's not coming back, not even Henry Cavil's not coming back, that's it. If you want to see him, if you want to see Henry Cavill. He's coming out in a new movie called Voltron, I think, in, I think, this year in fall. Maybe correct me if I'm wrong, but yeah, if you want to see him there In fall, maybe, I think, correct me if I'm wrong, but yeah, if you want to see him there, he's coming out in Voltron, you know. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like the guy, I like his movie too, man of Steel and BVS. You know, when Zack Snyder Directed man of Steel and I always wanted Superman to be like what's going on On the world, what's going like robbing and all that shit Like real life, like real violence that's going on Around the world, right, that's what I wanted too.

Joe: 11:15

You know, I wanted Superman to go through Real events like what's going on right now. That's what I wanted, that's what, that's what that kind of movie I wanted to be, to be honest. And then man of Steel was almost close to that. It was almost close to that. But, to be honest with you, there was a lot of collateral damage on that, um, in that movie, and Hardly Superman didn't hardly say anybody that, uh, when buildings were crashing, you know things, shit like that. But don't get me wrong. The man of steel. Man of steel was good, but if, but, if, they would have made it more like realistic, like what's going on in the world mugging, you know, stopping people from killing, you know, getting real events. That's what I wanted, you know.

Joe: 12:05

And then what I like about what Zack Snyder did was that alien invasion he broadcasted in the news in man of Steel. You know that Zod was arriving to Earth because he was looking for Kal-El. That was kind of awesome, because it's like us, when we're watching the news or TikTok, you know, you guys are seeing like UFOs invasion, getting invaded by UFOs. Right, that's what I liked about it too. You know, I'm not trying to bash Zach Snyder, you know, because if I did I'll be a hypocrite, because I do collect, I do have his movies, I do have the justice league, the un, uh, unlimited what is it? The unlimited version, you know? And uh, the, the BVS one too, the uncut director's cut. I got that one too.

Joe: 13:03

You know I'm a huge fan of Superman. I collect everything that's Superman, right, but if it would have made man of Steel like realistic, but saving a lot of people you know he only saved Louis to the whole movie. Well, not to the whole movie a soldier, and I think that's about it. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I love Superman. I know a lot about Superman and this James Gunn, the one he directed, it was real awesome. It was amazing.

Joe: 13:47

But we all have to move on and people are saying, oh, I'm going to watch the movie streaming on Superman, the James Gunn version, I want to watch it on Superman, but you're still paying it in streaming. How stupid can that be? You know I don't get it. I'm going to watch it in streaming. When it comes on the screen, I'm going to watch it. Moron, you know what. You're still paying for Max. You know Max, and it's run by Warner Brothers.

Joe: 14:18

Okay, I mean, oh my gosh, I just the comments they have in Facebook and Instagram and TikTok. Oh my gosh, dude, all whining, you know crying because they didn't get their way. I don gosh, dude, all whining, you know Crying because they didn't get their way. I don't understand that. I really don't. Oh my gosh, it's like doing tantrums because, oh my gosh, that's not the way James. I mean, it's not the way James got. I didn't like the way he did it. You know he messed it up. He messed it up. I don't like it. I'm going to rip this shirt. I'm going to throw all the toys that I bought.

Joe: 15:05

You know you're not a true Superman fan. It's only the ones that are not really. I mean the ones that are not fans, they do that you know. You know some people love Elvis Presley, some people don't. Some people claim that he's the king of rock and roll. Some people say that Chuck Berry is the king of rock and roll. Some say that Little Rich is the king of rock and roll. You know, some people have different tastes in music. We have all different tastes on movie making and all that stuff. Or different director you guys got different tastes on movie making or different director. You guys got to Get off of that, that dream that you guys are Wanting Zack Snyder to come back, because it's not going to come back.

Joe: 15:50

I mean, if it does, oh, wow, I spoke too soon, but I don't think he's not coming back. And you know what? If he does come back, this is what's going to happen. He's going to want to ask more money for him to make that the conclusion of the Justice League too. All right, they're going to have to pay him more and he's going to want more. All right, they're going to have to pay him more and he's going to want more. But would Warner Brothers risk it or DC Would they risk it? Maybe, you never know, it's a gamble, but to be honest, I would want it back too. But I don't think they're going to think about all that now. They're focusing on the new movie, superman, which was awesome and amazing. I mean I enjoyed it a lot, to be honest.

Joe: 16:52

I mean I don't want to give the spoilers that much right here, but but what people are talking about or saying about the movie that it's woke and all that shit you guys are full of shit. You guys are full of shit. It's all like you guys want to just sabotage it because you know you didn't get your way, because Henry Cavell is not back and Zack Snyder is not back to the scene. No, I get it, you know, I get it, but we just got to let it go. We just got to let go. Learn to let go. I mean, some of you are not learning how to let go. Just imagine you guys are in a relationship. If your girlfriend or boyfriend breaks up with you, you're not going to know how to deal with it. Oh, I'm not going to let you go. I'm not going to let you go. I'm going to kill you before, because no one can have you. You know, I'm sorry to put it that way, but that's the way it is. That's reality. It's reality.

Joe: 18:01

You guys got to learn how to let go and lose things too. You guys, people, you guys got to learn how to lose things, because not all, all the time you're going to win, you have to learn how to lose. If you learn how to lose, then you get the chance to win. You know, you don't have to be a loser all the time, but you can win time to time. But sometimes you gotta win. You win some, lose some.

Joe: 18:28

You know what I'm saying. I mean, that's like me. I always lose. You know, I'm always. I'm always losing things and all that stuff. I'm already used to it. I'm really used to it. You could call me a loser while you want, I could handle it.

Joe: 18:49

But sometimes when I lose, when I win things, I get embarrassed. I don't know, for some reason I don't know if you guys are agree with me on that sometimes when they, uh, when I like if I will win a MVP award or something like an award. I think. Like, I don't know, that's not me, maybe, because I'm I'm always losing and I'm really used to it. I'm really immune to it. You know, give me a loser award instead. You know, I think I'll be happy with that, right, right, I mean, I think I'll be happy with a loser award instead. You know, I don, I'll be happy with that, right, right, I mean, I think I'll be happy with a loser award instead.

Joe: 19:19

You know, I don't know, for something I get embarrassed winning something I don't know and put me in the spot like, oh my gosh, you know, can you, if I win something and they put me in the spot, I go. Can you say it? Can you? I don't want to be recognized that. You know, I have a MVP award or any award. You know, if I win money or something like that, I'll be hiding and shit like that. I don't know.

Joe: 19:43

I don't know if you guys agree with me with that, but that's the way I feel, like if someone, someone out there is like like I'm doing my podcast and someone beats me on the or trying to be against me in my podcast and someone beats me on the or trying to be against me in my podcast, I think, or trying to be better in my podcast, let them be better than me. I don't care, you know, as long as I'm doing the thing that I love to do, you know that's how it matters. I don't care about a paper, I don't care about a stone hinge, engrave you know little stone, or glass, crystal glass, what's your name on it? Maybe I could make that on my own, you know. But as long as in my heart I'm more popular in my heart, that's all that matters in God, as long as God knows I'm most valuable to him, that's all that matters. Okay, and only God knows that I'm good and he knows I pray.

Joe: 20:45

But it doesn't really bother me, you know, it doesn't really bother me who's better than me or not. I'm just doing my life, minding my own business, doing my work, and get the hell out of there. You know, that's what I'm trying to say. You know I mean I'm happy for the person that you know wins an award. You know, I'll be glad. It's like when you buy Christmas. You know, when it's Christmas, I don't care about getting gifts. It's like you rather give. You know, I'm a giving person. I like to give, but people that need to buy me something like a present. You don't have to. You know it's okay. You know I get embarrassed when someone buys me a gift or something like that, you know, and I'm more like buying a present to the person. You know, for the person, you know something like that. So it's like you know, if I lose, I lose, I'll deal with it, you know, so I suck. Who cares? You know. But I mean, I know I should care, but it doesn't bother me. You know it really doesn't bother me and I'm happy for the person that won a gift or won an award. You know it's, that's good. That's good, you know. But as long as I'm doing my work, I just want to get out of there and just mind my own business and that's it. That's all I can say. You know, but you know that's what I'm trying to say.

Joe: 22:15

People have to learn how to let go of things. You know, sometimes in life you're not going to get what you want. You know sometimes you're going to get rejected. Sometimes you're going to have to move on and accept things in life. You know, because not everything you're going to win. You know, not everything you're always going to win, and then when you lose, you're going to get all hurt and you're going to cry. You're going to, you know, you're going to take matters of your own hands and you're going to take it on the world. You know, oh, that should have been me. I should have won this.

Joe: 22:45

You know people, there's some people out there. They cannot handle rejection, they cannot handle the loss. You know there's some people that cannot handle the loss of an unalive parent or things like that. Life in the world is not easy. You're going to go through difficult times. You're going to go through difficult times at times. You know what I'm saying. And some people are strong, Some people are weak.

Joe: 23:15

So, like me, I'm not saying I'm strong-minded. You know, sometimes I get real emotional, sometimes I miss my mother and my dad. But I have to move on in life. I cannot just mope around and think about my dad and my mom, my mom and dad's passing. I just got to keep my mind occupied, you know. And if I keep my mind occupied I'm good.

Joe: 23:41

But you know, when I don't, when I just mope around in the house, it's like I just stop and everything just falls apart and I'm just going to be thinking and thinking and thinking and that's bad, it's like gravity. You know what? I'm just going to be thinking and thinking and thinking, and that's bad, it's like gravity. You know what I'm saying. Like you, just the ball. You know it's going fast, you're spinning and it's just hovering like this right and then once that gravity stops, I'm going to explode.

Joe: 24:12

You know that's how my mind is. You know I got to keep my mind occupied. I got to get busy, I got to be. You know that's how my mind is. You know I got to keep my mind occupied. I got to get busy, I got to be. You know, moving and running.

Joe: 24:20

Keep my mind occupied, because if I don't, I'm going to burst, I might shed a tear or something like that, and it just comes out. You know I just don't have it emotionally, I don't just. You know it's because I'm thinking about things. You know I'm thinking and thinking, and thinking. Once I'm stopping, whatever I'm doing, I'm gonna tear, because I'm just right away my, my flashbacks come back. You know, like whatever is going to my past. I think about things too much and, um, it happens.

Joe: 24:51

But like I say again, you got to let go of the past, move on. I mean, I don't know if I'm making sense here, or has every has anything to do with the, the movie, but it's just. People have to move on. People have to move on in life like, uh, Zach Snyder, that's it for him. got to , got to move on and learn. got to learn how to accept new things in life. You know what I'm saying? I mean bashing everybody because they love the movie. You're going to bash that person because they love the movie of James Gunn's movie. I mean, then again, when they attacked Zack Snyder, you guys cannot take it Because literally you guys started the whole damn war on social media. To be honest, you're all criticizing, you're all criticizing on James Gunn and you're all bragging and bragging about man of steel and Zach Snyder. But the guy is gone. The guy is not directing anymore. He's, but he's not in the DC list, no more. He's not employed in the DC universe. You guys have got to accept it. You have to accept things in life because he's not coming back.

Joe: 26:14

Not even Ben Affleck, I mean, he did a good Batman. You know that I give him Because Ben Affleck, he's a good writer. Let me tell you one thing he's a good writer and he also him and I forgot his pal's name. It's Ben Affleck. And, oh my gosh, I forgot his name. I'm sorry, but yeah, he directed that movie, I think. No, he didn't direct that movie. He wrote the movie Good Will Hunting and they won awards for it. They won Oscars on that. It's a good movie. I could watch that movie like 20 times I watched it more than 20 times, to be honest but Ben Affleck, he's a good writer and a director.

Joe: 27:13

But I really love them as Bruce Wayne Batman, because Bruce Wayne, him as Bruce Wayne I mean him as Bruce Wayne he's like almost like a playboy. Do you agree or not? I mean he was really awesome as Batman, Brace Wayne and people that day when they were filming that I mean not filming. Sorry, I'm always contradicting my words, but when they announced that he was going to be playing Bruce Wayne Batman, everybody didn't like that choice of him playing Batman Bruce Wayne. You know why? I'll tell you why Because in every social media network and Facebook and this was before TikTok was existing and it was on Instagram and Facebook and everybody go no, not fucking Batman, he's not a good choice for Bruce Wayne Batman. He didn't look good in Daredevil.

Joe: 28:08

He always cries in every fucking movie. He always tears. In you know, the movie Armageddon, he was crying with tears. You know, he was like a cry a, like a cry baby In every fucking movie. That's what I was reading.

Joe: 28:22

You know, this is how hypocritical you guys are Out there, cause you guys Were talking shit about Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill and Zack Snyder, and now that, now that Zack Snyder Got more famous On directing man of Steel and BVS, because you guys were all knocking them the ones I bet you, the ones who are now Zack Snyder fans you guys were knocking them down. You know if you guys would have not get a bad word of mouth out there, and I'm pretty sure these were against Zack Snyder. These are the ones that are Zack Snyder fans right now. Those are the ones that were knocking them down and now they became Zack Snyder fans all of a sudden, all of a sudden. And now they're denying it and you know you guys are denying it. You guys are denying it. And you know you guys are denying it. You guys are denying it Because I read every single post.

Joe: 29:20

I mean I wish you know, I just wish I could have just recorded that shit, you know? Or snap how do you call that Snapchat. You know you snap picture it and all that shit. You know, whatever you call it, I mean I should have like Took a picture of it, but we didn't have the right technology at the time Because it was what? 2012 at the time, and BVN I mean man of Steel came out in 2013.

Joe: 29:48

You know, you guys were just knocking it down. You guys were talking shit about Zack Snyder. You guys were like, oh, he down. You guys were talking shit about Zack Snyder. You guys were like, oh, he's not a good Superman. He looks like he has a receding hairline and all that shit. And now you guys are Zack Snyder friends and now you guys are denying it the idea. You didn't knock him down.

Joe: 30:10

You know you guys give him the bad word of mouth about this movie with BVS, because you guys were all talking about the dooms. They look like a ninja turtle, like a yeah, like a ninja turtle and a troll. And you guys were talking about, oh, it sucks and it's like mixed up with the Batman Returns of um, the Dark Knight Returns and all that shit and the death of Superman. You guys were all knocking it and all of a sudden, you guys are Superman, zack Snyder fans too, and Superman fans, and most of you Probably didn't even read A comic book. You know what I'm saying, most of you guys. And you guys know I'm telling the truth Because you guys were Knocking Zack Snyder. You know, if you guys Wanted to have said that, the word of mouth, all that shit.

Joe: 30:57

You know because you guys were knocking Zack Snyder. If you guys want to have said the word of mouth, all that shit, if you guys want to not spread the rumors that it sucked and all that shit, this guy, Zach Snyder, those movies would have made a billion dollars in the box office but you guys were knocking him down. He was almost close. He was almost close to making a billion dollars, but you guys were talking shit on the internet and everybody, word of mouth, fucking spread the rumor and no one didn't want to see it. Because you know I'd rather see it in streaming. What's the big deal with saying it in streaming? You're all going to watch it in streaming and you guys still paying for fucking the stream, fucking service. I don't get it. Morons, guys are morons. You guys ruined Zach Snyder's career. Actually, technically he left because his daughter had been unalive, but technically I I blame it on the. You Zack Snyder friends all of a sudden Snyder, all of a sudden Snyder friends, Zach Snyder friends all of a sudden. And you were the ones were knocking them down. And you guys are denying it too. I was always, I was always a Zack Snyder fan bullshit. I was always a Zack Snyder fan Bullshit. That's what I can say. That's all I have to say about that, and you guys know I'm talking the truth, telling the truth. You know I'm telling the truth. I mean this movie with James Gunn did it's amazing. Put that man of Steel and BVS Zack Snyder on the side. Enjoy this fucking movie, guys. Enjoy this movie because it is amazing.

Joe: 32:53

You got to take your head out of Zack Snyder, out of your mind. You got to take it out of it. Let it go, meditate or something you guys are possessed of. Zack Snyder. You guys are possessed on Zack Snyder. Let it go, let it empty your mind, let it go. You know, open your mind. You know, right, open your mind, open your mind, Open your mind, open your mind. Maybe you should open your minds. Maybe you should open your ass. Take your head out of your asses. You know you guys got to let it go. You guys have to let it go. You got to have an open-minded. You got to be open-minded about this movie. You guys got to have open minded. You have to be open minded about this movie. You guys got to move on, enjoy life and enjoy new things that are coming next year or another year, whatever.

Joe: 34:05

And I knew, and I knew James Gunn was going to nail this movie. I mean, you know, and I'm looking at it on social media like TikTok and all that shit. You know James Gunn was going to nail this movie. I mean, you know, and I'm looking at it on social media, like TikTok and all that shit. You know, I see people praising about the movie too. They enjoyed it. And the ones that are like they didn't like it, I screw it up.

Joe: 34:29

Let me see, there's one guy I'm not going to name his name. He's in social media. He's a huge Superman fan. Okay, you know, a huge Superman fan, no pun intended. A huge Superman fan. He bought this shirt, the same shirt, you know, the movie shirt, James Gunn style shirt, the Kim Dunn cum ass. I know I could call it the Alex Ross, because it's really normally designed by him, from him. And he bought the tumbler. You know this thing, this cup right here, you see, and it, which is a beautiful cup, um, you know, to buy your sword and all that stuff. I wanted to buy more, but I got there late, but that's another story. So he bought everything.

Joe: 35:18

He was really excited to watch this movie, you know, and he made a big deal. He bought the shirt, he bought the costume too, guys, he bought the costume, you know, he bought everything. He went all out, guys. He bought the costume, he bought everything. He went all out, he went all out. And I'm a huge Superman fan. I'm a huge Superman fan. I'm a big time Superman fan since 1978, when I was five years old. When I saw Christopher Reeve, I was like amazed and I started watching Kurt Alling and all that shit.

Joe: 35:49

But this guy was like a huge kid, a huge kid that he made a big thing, a big, whatever you want to call it. But he made a big deal on TikTok, that he loved this. He wanted to see this movie, superman. He was promoting it, you know, like self-promoting the movie. Okay, he got really high expectations on this movie, you know, and that's one thing he shouldn't do. You got to be calm. Wait till the movie comes out. Wait till the movie fucking comes out. Then you come out with high expectations. But this guy, he made a big thing. You know, oh yeah, superman, it's July 11, 2025. You know, oh yeah, superman, it's July 11, 2025. You know, I was like man, I hope it doesn't flop. I mean I was like what is this guy doing? What is he doing? He's like he just saw the trailer. I mean, wait till the movie comes out. Like all of you morons out there, you guys didn't wait till the movie until you guys are just bas the trailer. I mean, wait till the movie comes out. All of you morons out there, you guys didn't wait till the movie until you guys are just bashing it. And some of you, right, I know you guys didn't just watch it. I know some of you out there talking crap. You guys haven't seen it yet. You're just hearing a word of mouth it sucks, oh, it sucks, oh, I'm not going to watch it. You lazy asses, or basement dwellers Basement dwellers I should call you guys. But yeah, you guys still going to watch it, but you guys are talking shit. But this guy, he was like praising the whole movie.

Joe: 37:30

He's a Superman fan, he's on TikTok, he had everything. I give him credit. He has comic books, everything. And the only thing that, okay, I'll get to that later, but he had, you know, posters of the David Coren sweat and crypto posters. You know he bought everything. I'm letting him, I'm telling you the truth. He bought everything from David Corset, superman shirts and all that shit, and he has comic books of Superman.

Joe: 38:06

I go, are you sure you're reading the comic books? Or you just bought them just to look at and just put them in your shelf? You know, are you using it comic books, or you just bought them just to look at and just put them in your shelf? You know, are you using it for style, just so everybody could look at your content? You know they could see you in the background. And, oh, he has comic books. Oh, he must have read them all. You know, like those professors, like those. You know how you go when you go to an office. You know you go to your counselor office. You see a lot of books. Are you sure you read them? Or you just just to put them right there just for show? You know, because that's the way the guy looked in TikTok. I go, are you sure you read the comics at the comics. You just bought comics and you just fucking slab them or just, you know, have it for show so everybody could look. Oh look, he reads comic books. They're right there in the shelves.

Joe: 39:01

You know, I don't know, but this guy was just praising about the movie. He had really high expectations about this movie, which you should not do until it comes out. You got to wait until the movie comes out. Then you come with see if you like it or not. Because for me, as a Superman fan not bragging about it in social media I'm like now I watch the movie, now I can say it, now I go. I really have high expectations about this movie because it was amazing and I really fucking like it. I'm not like this guy. Before the movie didn't come out, he made a big ass shit out of it. And now he's like, oh, he didn't like the fucking movie, he didn't love it, he hated it. He was bashing James Gunn about it, that James Gunn messed it up. It was not the movie I expected it to be and all that stuff, through all this fucking bullshit that he made the big deal, he made the high expectations on TikTok and all that stuff ragging about James Gunn that he was disappointed about the movie. Fucking bullshit. It's kind of like a hypocrite, you know. And I met a comment Well, I'm a huge Superman fan.

Joe: 40:20

I don't have your shit like in the back, like the way you have it. You know, I don't have my comics like in the background. I don't gloat them, I don't show them off Like if I was a professor in the back. I don't gloat them. I don't show them off Like if I was a professor in the back. You know, like I'm a professor, like having all my books, my comic books, right there. I have my toys, but I mean I'm not going to put them all like that so everybody could see them. You know what I'm saying.

Joe: 40:48

But yet he's all bashing it and like, oh, it's a disappointing movie and all that stuff. Well, I thought you were a Superman fan. You know Superman fans do love Superman. You know I love Superman. I fucking love the movie. It was amazing. I don't care. I tell everybody, you know, I tell everybody, like you know, if you're, if you're gonna be, a Superman fan, go watch it. If you're not, don it at all. All right, I warned them. Oh, and when they, when they're not even Superman fans. They go watch it and now they start talking shit. Well, why are you watching it? Why are you watching it? Oh, because it was a. It was a. There was nothing on and there was nothing good to see. Well, yeah, there's Jurassic Park.

Joe: 41:27

You, when I went to go watch this, to go watch the movie, on Saturday on July 12th, when I went to go see it, this lady was like she was a sweet lady, we were talking, making conversation. I got there early, I bought my beer and she made a conversation with me and I said, hi, I didn't get her name, so she was telling me that there was nothing to watch. You know, I wanted to see some movie with Brad Pitt. I don't know what movie with Brad Pitt made, but she says they didn't have it on the theater, so they didn't have it there, so she had no choice to watch Superman. She said she had no choice to watch Superman. Okay, oh, I don't really like Superman and all that stuff. You know, I just came here Just because they didn't have the movie that I wanted to watch, so I had no choice to watch Superman.

Joe: 42:18

Well, there's Jurassic Park. How can we not watch Jurassic Park? You know, she was a sweet lady, you know. I just you know I'm the type of guy Like we want to, like you know, make a conversation, okay. So. And I told him, like you know, make a conversation, okay. So. And I told him. I told him I'm a huge Superman fan, you know. I'm sorry, but I've been a Superman fan since I was five years old when my dad and my mom took me to see Superman in 1978. And I was even before the movie started, you know, even before they were making the movie of with Christopher Reeve in 1978.

Joe: 42:55

My dad used to watch Kirk Allen. My mom would like tell my dad, you're making him watch too much cartoons and all that shit. But my dad used to draw, he was an artist, he was a painter too. He would draw Superman. I would ask my dad hey dad, can you draw me a Superman ass? He would draw. Oh, you painter too. He would draw superman. I would ask my dad hey dad, can you draw me a superman ass? So you draw, okay, oh, you want to draw a superman ass or you, he'll join me. The logo and everything and the comic and all that stuff. He would draw superman literally. And um, that's how I became a superman fan because my dad used to watch kirk allen and george reeve and also I would watch the bat, the old 1960 with Adam West.

Joe: 43:34

But yeah, so this lady was just like telling me, oh well, I'm gonna see how it is, because the last time I saw Superman and it was with Christopher Reeve, the 1978 one I go, oh really, I go, well, that's cool. I mean, yeah, my dad took me and the way I explained it, so they were cleaning the theater. That's why I mean, yeah, my dad took me and the way I explained it, so we, they were cleaning the theater. That's why we're just making conversation, so we're waiting for the, the, the employees to clean inside the theater because they're probably with too much popcorn. But, um, so we went in. They finally cleaned it. We went in and, um, we watched the movie.

Joe: 44:08

So when the movie ended, she comes up to me because I was sitting, like she was sitting behind me and I was sitting in the front, and she comes up to me and say, hey, I go. Oh, hi, did you like it? I go, yeah, I liked it, it was awesome, it was amazing, you know. And she says I didn't go, you didn't go, why not? I think it was. Didn't you go? You didn't you go? Why not? I think it was phony. He looked phony, that Superman didn't look like Superman at all. You go, really, you go, I think he did. You know. I mean, remember, guys, she said that she was not even a Superman fan and she didn't want to see the movie. She just had no choice to watch it and so she told me that I didn't like it. I think it was just a phony movie. He looked phony.

Joe: 44:58

I go, why did you watch it in the first place? You know, a sweet lady, a sweet lady. I go, why did you watch it? I mean, I didn't tell her that. But you know, I didn't want to be rude. But in my mind, I go, why did you watch it in the first place? And I forgot to mention that with the Gooch and I when we did our podcast, I forgot to mention that in a podcast and that I was talking to the lady about that and when I went to go see it we were making conversation. I mean, it was a sweet lady. You know she was an elderly woman person. She was in a wheelchair, you know. So you know, I made the conversation with her. You go. I mean, that's her opinion. I mean I'm not going to fucking bash her about it, but you know what I'm just trying to tell people if you're not going to watch, I mean if you're not a fan, do not watch it, because then at the end of the day you're going to talk crap about it and then you're going to spread rumors. Oh, it sucks to you because you're not a fan. Okay, to me it didn't, because I'm a fan. That's the whole meaning of being a fan, you know, you know. You know that's the whole meaning of being a fan. You know, you know, and that's what I'm trying to say.

Joe: 46:23

You know and I know I jumped real quick on the what I was explaining about that guy from TikTok. I just wanted to point that out and I forgot to mention that. But the guy in TikTok, he was just bashing about the fucking movie, all that hype, expectation that he made. Now he looks like an idiot, now he makes himself look like a fool. So I and I told him well, I'm a superman fan, I liked it, it was amazing. I mean, you're a superman, you should have loved it.

Joe: 46:53

He even said that Superman 4 is better than fucking this movie or James Gunn's movie. Stop lying to yourself, guy. Stop lying to yourself, guy, because I love Superman 4. If I love Superman 4, I will love this fucking movie too. You know what I'm saying? That's what I said. I mean honestly, honestly, honestly. I even watched Smallville and the new Superman and Lois one too, even though I don't have time to watch it, because that's why I set my DVR to record them, so I could watch them. When I have time, like my days off, I'll watch it, because that series it was badass too.

Joe: 47:37

But this guy, he was just bashing the fucking movie. I go, I thought you were a Superman fan. What's going on? Why you're all so depressed. You know, he was already crying Like that, like serious, like a grown man, I think he was. He's probably like my age, probably like 45, maybe, I don't know, I'm 52, I don't know man, I would give up his name, but I don't want to give him the praise. You know, I don't know, it made me. It made me want to Fucking unfollow him Because he's a phony. Okay, yeah, yeah, no llores, niño, no llores. But um, it makes me want to unfollow him because he's a phony. You're such a phony dude You're supposed to love Superman, no matter who plays the fucking part.

Joe: 48:30

Whatever the fucking situation of the movie is the storyline, and it was a great storyline and James Gunn wrote it and I'm going to go watch it again. I don't care how much they didn't make in the box office. I'm there just to support the movie because I'm a huge Superman fan and he should be doing the same thing. You should support the movie. Stop being a nagger, a whiner, a wanker. Don't be no wanker. I don't know man. I'm telling you. It's ridiculous. These crybabies, they can't enjoy the movie the way it is. It's Superman, dude, it's a fictional character. Even I know that it's a fictional character and people are getting too fucking real, too personal about it. Oh, James Gunn did it better. Oh,

Joe: 49:33

You know, imagine if we would have social media back in the 80s when Batman came out, because when Michael Keaton came out as Batman, I knew I mean okay, at that time there was no actor around to play the good Bruce Wayne Batman. At that time they only had back. Then they were getting let. That time there was no actor around to play the good Bruce Wayne Batman at that time. They only had back then they were getting, let's say, A-listers actors. Okay, I don't know who else was up for the role for Batman, but they had no choice to get Mr. Mom as Batman, because Michael Keaton was Mr. Mom.

Joe: 50:08

I don't know if you saw that movie and I knew it was a bad choice. Bruce Wayne doesn't have receding hairline, you know what I'm saying and I think he's 5'9 or something like that, or 6'1. Michael Keenan, to be honest, I don't know. I don't creep up at their professional thing, whatever you call it their identity. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, but you know what. I didn't agree with that, but hey, it was a good movie. He's not the best Batman, but it was a good fucking ass movie At the time. It was because there was no fucking Batman movie. We only had what the 1960s Adam West Batman at the time, you know, and they didn't take Batman serious at the time because he was gray and blue. Now that Tim, what's his name? I got the fucking Tim Burton. There you go, Tim Burton.

Joe: 51:09

When Tim Burton became the director and he made it badass, that's when everybody started knowing Batman. Everybody started buying fucking comic books about Batman. Oh, batman was dark because of Tim Burton made it dark. That's why they know they love Batman today, cause then actually Tim Burton made him dark. I mean Batman always been dark, but like in the movie I'm talking about movie-wise and all black and all that stuff, because normally Batman's all black and gray, blue and gray, you know. You know, I'm a Batman fan too, don't get me wrong.

Joe: 51:50

But everybody was just bashing Michael Keaton at the time too. Well, just imagine we would have had social media back then, how it would have been. Like the way it is with um David Corenswet, with all the fucking fucked up batman I mean fucked up superman or fucked up batman. It would have been going the same way. Oh, Michael Keaton wouldn't be a fucking badass. He wouldn't be a badass, fucking batman. Bruce Wayne, he's short, he has a receding hairline, it's all curly and all that stuff. You know, I'm sorry my kid, I didn't mean to bash you, but that's, if social media was around at that time, you would have got that fucking, all that shenanigans.

Joe: 52:28

But lucky for him it wasn't like that. There was no social media, it was all nothing but newspaper and the news. You know, and at the time I was too lazy to read a newspaper. You know I didn't want to read a fucking newspaper. I mean hell. No, I regret it now. I should have read a newspaper. My speech, my grammar would have been fucking perfect right now. You know, I don't know who knows.

Joe: 52:56

But um, like I said, this guy was just Fucking, crying About fucking. Oh, it was a Fucked up Superman and you know he came out with Low expectation. He was all sad and he was all, like you know, hurt. He was hurt. You know I go Cry little. You know I go cry little boy. You know keep crying. Keep crying Because you know what that's accepted.

Joe: 53:18

It was a fantastic movie for me and everybody's saying the same thing. It was amazing. Everybody gave it 10-10. And I gave it 8-10. You know, I mean, it's just starting.

Joe: 53:35

The Superman is just starting and it explains in the movie. Okay, it explains in the movie about everything. And it's not woke. You people are woke. You people can't accept things in life. You guys can't deal with reality. You guys are still living in a bubble. I mean Superman's been an immigrant, an alien. I mean it's an alien, okay, not an immigrant. Immigrants for what? For a human being, or something like that. They're just calling him an immigrant because today's actions, today's era, today's decade he's an alien from another galaxy. He's not even close to our solar system, you know, and? But this guy was just fucking crying. He was like all upset. He threw all his fucking items and the fucking. You know they had those. You know the movie popcorn buckets. You know Superman with the new Superman movie it was a new popcorn buckets.

Joe: 54:50

I wanted to buy that shit too. I go, give that shit to me for free. I mean, if you're going to sell it, you're a hypocrite because you know you're saying it's trash. If it's trash, you just throw it out without selling it. You know what I'm saying. So give it to me, you know. Mail it to me and don't give it away. Don't sell it, because if you sell it, you're you know you sold it because you know to get the money. If you're saying it was trash the whole movie was trash and the whole items you want to get money for it. You have your fucking stupid pride and you just throw it away without getting paid for it. You know it's like people like he ripped his shirt too.

Joe: 55:36

This shirt he has right here. Like this one, he gets a, I think he gets scissors, I don't know. I was kind of worried too, because what happens if it slips and he? He will shank his, his under his chin, his bottom chin, because I was kind of worried, I think he he put it on TikTok. I was kind of worried. Go, oh, dude, watch it, dude, you're going to fucking shank yourself. And you, just because you're angry, because when you get mad and all that shit, you get angry, you you're about to have an accident. Because I see that shit at work when they're mad and they're frustrated and you know they get hurt. They don't know what they're fucking doing. But this guy, he got scissors I think it was scissors or a knife, I don't know what the fuck.

Joe: 56:19

So he had a Superman, the original Superman emblem, and he had this shirt over it. Okay, so he gets the scissors and he rips it apart and he has the original Superman logo. He said this is the only shirt I want to wear, this is the one that's a real superman, the real superman logo and all that shit, the superman, Christopher reeve and all that stuff. I go, dude, why did you fucking rip that beautiful shirt? I mean, he probably bought it in Walmart for $8. I bought this in Amazon for $24, you know, $24, $24 actually. But yeah, that's why he tore it, because it was probably only worth $8,. You know, even though I wouldn't fucking do that, it's a Superman, it's still fucking do that. It's a Superman. It's still a Superman logo. It's from Alex Ross. Alex Ross designed this fucking logo. James Gunn didn't fucking design it, he only designed the color. That's about it, not the whole design, the logo.

Joe: 57:28

I mean it's like a man child, you know. I mean it's like a man-child, you know it's a man-child crying because a baby didn't get what he wants. He was crying milk and he didn't get the milk that he wanted. It's like a baby. When you hear a baby crying, if you give him milk, if you don't give him milk, he's going to get used to it and he's going to keep crying because he has to get his way. I don't know if I make sense on that.

Joe: 57:58

And then all the trolls. Oh my gosh man. It's like unbelievable. People are not moving on. The past is the past. You got to move ahead. Start getting used to accepting things. Do your research on that. How to learn how to accept things in life, how to lose things in life.

Joe: 58:25

Most of you out there are. Just just because you watched A man is Steel and BVS, you really know about comics. You know, and you think that Superman doesn't look right with underwear's. I mean, they call it. What do they call it? Diaper man, stupid. What kind of childish shit is that? I mean, you can't tell the difference between a diaper and fucking trunks, everybody. How ridiculous is that? You're the ones that are fucking wearing diapers right now. You know what I'm saying. You guys are all crying about it because it's earning money in the box office, but it's not earning enough, but still it's still earning money. We're only what like they pay it on Friday, so right now they're it's still playing it's, they're earning money right now.

Joe: 59:19

You know, I don't know, man, I mean that's why you go to the theaters With low expectations first. Then, if you like it, then you, you come up with high expectations, like me, like this moron, and I think I'm going to unfollow him. To be honest, I can't really. I don't, I can't. I keep talking about it Because I can't stand it. I mean, sometimes I can't stand myself. People at work can't even stand me either, and they probably want to fire me. They probably want to fire me. That's why they can't stand me From what I heard, because maybe I'm I don't pay attention or maybe I'm not doing my job right. But you know, if you're going to do it, do it, you know. But yeah, I think I'm going to unfollow him because it's like he's a phony.

Joe: 1:00:18

Why would you want to do that to Superman stuff like your items? So now he got his items and he's going to throw them in the trash or he might sell them Like a baby. I don't want to fuck all this. I don't know. He tore his poster too. They were, of course, with, you know, the new design with all red. You know he's flying up and crypto.

Joe: 1:00:41

He tore his posters up Like a big baby. Oh my gosh, dude, seriously, you know you're looking ridiculous right. And he putting. He's posting that on fucking Instagram, I mean on TikTok, everybody. He's posting that and shit on TikTok. And you know what? The Zack Snyder's are Probably enjoying it the Zack Snyder fans, the bots, what they call them Monkey bots, now the Henry Cavill bots.

Joe: 1:01:21

You know, they're probably like, they're probably following him now, or or either laughing at him. I told you so he, he, he. They're probably laughing at him now because he had all the high expectations and now he's looking silly. You know why are you? Why are you doing that to yourself? How are you? It's already too late. It's probably being reposted already. Why are you doing that to yourself? How are you? It's already too late, it's probably being reposted already. Like, oh my gosh, what is this guy doing? What is he doing? Why are you doing this to yourself? You know why are you doing this to yourself? Why are you doing a tantrum on TikTok about the new Superman movie? You had a high expectation. You even posted that you can't wait for July 11th when it comes out. He was all posting it, he was all promoting it. He was excited.

Joe: 1:02:15

You know you go, oh my gosh, what a crybaby, what a crybaby. Oh my gosh, this is embarrassing. You know he's like when he did all that shit, he was like positive, like he couldn't speak, like kick back. You know, sofrido, like you know the suffering. You know Like, like I don't know.

Joe: 1:02:53

I just I just don't want to talk about it anymore. I mean, just by talking about it, it's just upsetting me. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. I don't know, man, what do you guys think, man? You think I mean, I get it, it's his opinion. You could criticize it all you want, but don't do it in, fucking, don't do it in you know TikTok and all that shit. So people want to fucking hear. I don't want to hear that shit. You know, some people don't want to probably hear me when I'm fucking on the podcast too, you know. But I don't know, I can't tell when you, when you're doing that, you're depressing me, not because you don't like the movie, it's just because I love the movie. It's like you're like a chain reaction, like a whole domino effect.

Joe: 1:03:47

He wants to affect everybody about his emotional problems, about the movie. You know, I don't know, man, what am I gonna do? I mean, it's ridiculous. That's why you guys, when you see a fucking trailer, you get all fucking happy. Your butthole picks and all that shit. You know it starts picking like, oh, I'm excited, it's puckering and shit, you know. And then when you go to the movies and you see, and when you go watch it and you get low expectations, oh, my gosh, it looks like you're gonna jump a building and shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, exactly. But let's be honest. I mean you don't. But um, let's be honest, I mean you don't.

Joe: 1:04:48

If you don't like the movie, don't express it on social media. Okay, I don't know, for me I wouldn't have done that. Maybe he needs to see it the second time or the third time. So he is, for I don't even think. He probably got the movie. I didn't think he get it, like what. Maybe he was drunk and he fucking didn't pay attention to it. You know what I'm saying. I don't know, for some reason I think he was drinking or drunk, or I don't know, for some reason, for some reason, I think he was probably drunk and he didn't like it. I mean, that's the way. I mean I don't know, I'm just. I'm just speculating what he, what he was doing in a theater. What was he doing? Was he paying attention about? Was he paying attention to the movie? Because I don't know I was paying attention in the movie, because I don't know I was paying attention to the movie and I had only two beers.

Joe: 1:05:49

I think the movie was great. I'm not going to spoil it right here. The movie was great. It wasn't even woke.

Joe: 1:05:57

I don't know what the fuck people are talking about, the woke shit. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what they're talking about, the woke shit. I mean I don't know, I don't know what they're talking about, this woke business crap and all that shit. But I think you guys are the ones that are woke. You guys are the ones that are woke, not the movie. You guys don't even know how to accept things. You guys get sensitive about everything. I think you guys are the ones that are woke, not the movie. You know Fucking full of shit. You guys are full of shit out there. I mean the movie was great. Don't listen to people. What they're saying in social media, just fucking envious. And this is what they wanted.

Joe: 1:06:48

I mean, if you guys really think you could do a good movie, why don't you go to fucking film school or something? Go to college and try to see if we could make a fucking good movie? Because let me tell you one thing there's never a good movie. There's never once a good movie. It's only what you fucking feel, not because it's only what you fucking feel, not because it's a masterpiece and all that shit. There's no such thing as having a masterpiece film. There's never a good film.

Joe: 1:07:12

It's what you like. It's what your choice is. It's your decision, what you like, you're not going to force someone to. It's like, if I don't like a movie, I'm going to, hey, gonna force someone to. It's like. So, if I don't like a movie, I'm gonna, hey, that fucking movie sucks, you're gonna brainwash that guy because, oh, just because you said a movie sucks, you're gonna brainwash him. Poor little guy. I mean, you're gonna brainwash him. Oh, okay, it's like. Oh, my friend told me it sucks, you know.

Joe: 1:07:35

And that idiot listens and some people out there are afraid to say, oh, it's a good movie. Like, um, this guy at at work, hey, did you see the movie Superman? I go, yeah, I go. Hey, it was fucking great, it was amazing. Oh, it's alright, I go, I thought you were a Superman fan.

Joe: 1:07:56

You're supposed to be a team Superman, you know. Oh, it was alright. I mean, yeah, like I said, there's never a good film, but you're a fan. Of course there's going to be a good film, because it's your type of movie, it's your choice, it's your decision. What you like, you know. Oh, it's all right. Oh, come on, you serious. And I tell them straight up you know, I'm a huge Superman fan. That's a fucking amazing movie. I fucking love it. I'm not going to say, oh, it's all right, it could have been better, it could have been good. No, it was fucking amazing.

Joe: 1:08:32

It was the way it's supposed to be a comic book, fucking movie, you know what. And they were right, because I don't know if you've seen the animated series of Superman like the cartoon 1994 around there I think 1993, you know it was something like that and you know what. It must be good and sure it was, sure it was. It was just exactly like the animated series Superman and I give my applause to that, to James Gunn for giving us that part of the movie, the flying scenes. It was awesome.

Joe: 1:09:12

But that's one thing I don't like about these some of the Superman fans I don't know if they're like 20% fans of being Superman or 100% fans of being a Superman fan, because I'm 100%. Let me tell you one thing when it's 100%, I'm fucking biased on Superman. I don't care they say Goku, what's his name? Dragon Ball Z, that guy. If they say he beats Superman, I'm going to say negative, he fucking could. Superman could fucking beat fucking Goku.

Joe: 1:09:41

And if that was true, let me see if they could beat a fucking badass Goku movie or Dragon Ball Z movie. See if they could make a badass Dragon Ball Z movie, because, from what I know, the other first fucking Dragon Ball Z or I don't know the Chinese or Japan they made a series of Dragon Balls. It doesn't look good, to be honest. See if they make a good Dragon Ball Z movie and you know what they're trying to make it, and I don't think it's going to exist. It's not going to happen because it's not going to look right. It only looks right in animated cartoons, to be honest.

Joe: 1:10:20

To be honest, you guys are talking about oh, goku could beat Superman. Well, let's see, superman is the Godfather of comics. He could beat anybody around the world, okay, and he could beat Goku on movies. Dragon Ball Z. Because, to be honest, I want to live with you. If they make a Dragon Ball Z movie, it's not going to turn out right. Let me tell you one thing you guys will be disappointed, because I saw the.

Joe: 1:11:04

Which one? Was it Dragon Ball Z? No, dragon Ball, the Revolution, whatever Evolution, whatever the fuck it's called. It sucked, it really sucked, and you Dragon Ball fans know it sucks too. But if they make a movie of the Dragon Ball Z, it's going to suck too, you know.

Joe: 1:11:26

But yet you guys are saying Superman could beat. No, yet you could say that Dragon what's his name? Goku could beat Superman. That's a joke. But, like I said again, superman could kick anybody's ass, even what's his name? Hyperman, whatever? From Marvel Superium I don't know what the fuck his name is, the copycat from with Marvel, copy from Superman. No one cannot beat Superman everybody. I'm a huge Superman fan. I stand my word Superman everybody. I'm a huge Superman friend. I stand my word. Oh, wrong, wrong effect. It was supposed to be this one, but, like I said to the crybabies out there about Superman, the movie, the new one, the 2025 Superman it's awesome, it's great. Do not pay attention to all those clowns out there, the trolls. You know what I'm saying Because it's an amazing movie.

Joe: 1:12:35

In social media, you know what they're calling them now. They're calling them monkey bots. That shit's funny, dude, and when I saw it in James Gunn's Superman movie, you could see all the monkey bots talking trash about Superman. Monkey shit or what is it? Superman shit, things like that. I don't want to give it away. I promise not to give it a spoiler and all that shit, but that's what they're getting called as monkey bots.

Joe: 1:13:03

You know, and you know, the funny part is these Snyder friends. I know 100% fact. I even mentioned in my previous episode that these Snyder bots are going to go watch the movie and they're saying they're not, but they went to go see it. You know why, out of curiosity, that's why, and I knew it. You know why, out of curiosity, that's why, and I knew it. And now what they're doing? It was trash. I saw it, I knew it, but you saw it right, you supported it, you gave money. I'm going to wait for a stream, but yet you're still paying for stream streaming. Stop being a hypocrite, you know. Stop contradicting yourself. And you could spot them miles away. You could spot these fake comic book readers, which they supposedly do. They do read comics supposedly, but yeah, they're talking trash.

Joe: 1:14:07

I mean, if you're a comic book reader and you like all superhero movies, you will like the movie. You will like the character. Right, like me, I love the character. Oh, not the way Superman's all about. Oh, jor-el's parents were, or Jor-El and laura. Then um van are excuse me my throat laura. Now you know, superman's um kryptonian mother. They were like trying. Oh, I can't. You know, sorry, I almost spoiled it right there.

Joe: 1:14:40

You guys have to watch the movie, guys. You know you guys got to just watch the movie and see it for yourselves and judge it for yourselves, to be honest, you know. I mean, don't be like these knuckleheads, you know, just judging it just because you know, you think you know, just judging it just because you know, you think you know about comics. The funny part is when I read in one of the comments on TikTok they said just because they watched Zack Snyder's Justice League and Henry Cavill man of Steel and BVS, it's like just because they watch it, they already know about comics. And I started laughing, I put a laughing emoji and they all got upset because that person commented, made a comment on that, and that was hilarious. That was funny. That was really funny.

Joe: 1:15:49

Like I said again, everybody, like I said again, if you guys are Superman fans, it will be terrific, you will love it. No matter how it turns out, no matter how the director does the storyline, you'll still fucking go watch it and you'll still accept it and you still will love it. I think it was amazing. You know Superman did I mean, to be honest, superman did a lot of saving in this movie, even a fucking squirrel everybody and Superman and Christopher Reeve. He saves a cat stuck on a tree and gives it to the little girl. Okay and Superman in Christopher Reeve's movie. Okay and Superman and Christopher Reeves movie spoiler alert. But in this movie he saved everybody, even a fucking squirrel and a dog. You know, you didn't see Henry Carvel doing that, you know.

Joe: 1:16:59

I mean, don't get me wrong the movie was good. It was not a masterpiece. Not even BVS was a masterpiece. They were good. Okay, there's no such thing of a best movie.

Joe: 1:17:11

To be honest, just fucking watch the movie and shut up and eat the popcorn. You know what I'm saying. That's all you got to do. That's all you got to do. Just shut up and watch the movie and judge it to yourself. Yes, we all got opinions. We all have opinions about the movie. My cup fell, it got mad, but um, it all got. We all have opinions. We all have opinions about you all have opinions about. You know anything. But you guys got to learn how to take an opinion from others, because some of you guys out there don't. And that's all I got to say. Just, we all have opinions about the movie.

Joe: 1:18:04

If you don't like it, so okay, but if you know you don't like the movie you're not a fan of Superman and you know you're going to go watch it and you don't like it, just to come out and say that you didn't like it. Dude, why did you go and watch it? You just want to watch it, just to talk crap about it, just because you're not a Superman fan. You know what I'm saying? It just makes you look like a fool, that's all. But, like I said, again, that's your opinion. But you know what? The only thing is that you still supported the movie. You supported the movie, you supported the movie, you supported James Gunn and you said you were not going to watch it because you think it's trash, you think it's childish and all that shit. You know what? You still supported the movie and you're still supporting the streaming service. And then it's Max and it's from DC and Warner Brothers. Regardless, you lose, you lose. That's all for today, guys. All my rant and all that stuff, you know. And then, um, that's all I can say about it. You know, stop being niggers, stop bickering about the movie. It was awesome, it was great, amazing. I loved it Because you know why I'm a Superman fan.

Joe: 1:19:34

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Joe: 1:20:04

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